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Why on earth do you think home ed would work second time around?

347 replies

Whatchasayin · 25/10/2020 10:56

We know that a huge percentage of DC didn't even log onto home learning earlier in the year. We know thousands of DC don't have devices, WiFi, space to work, parental support. We know thousands of DC can't be bothered to do it and who's going to make them when parents are at work/don't care. This all happened a few months ago so why are so many people advocating going back there? For a virus that many people don't even realise they have and most don't get more than mildly unwell. Average age of death is 82.

OP posts:
notevenat20 · 25/10/2020 14:05

At some point when everything else is shut and we aren't allowed to see any friends or family, it will become true that schools will be the main source of infection. But it's not true yet.

OpheliasCrayon · 25/10/2020 14:06

@notevenat20

At some point when everything else is shut and we aren't allowed to see any friends or family, it will become true that schools will be the main source of infection. But it's not true yet.
But maybe we have to accept this

An entire generation of children cannot have their education and mental wellbeing more damaged than it already is.

Sunflowers246 · 25/10/2020 14:06

Exactly. Closing schools should be the absolute last resort. Hopefully it won't come to that.

Barbie222 · 25/10/2020 14:08

But even if it were, last time the key worker children in school were taught nothing. Teachers do have a valid point when they say that you can't teach in person and online at the same time.

Please be aware that was not the case in many, many schools, where key worker children completed the same work as their peers. I agree teachers can't be in two places at once, but many schools managed to complete set work with key worker children.

Sunflowers246 · 25/10/2020 14:09

The tubes in London are still packed! The busses are full, shops are busy etc etc. Lots of scope to reduce transmission before having to think about schools.

SimonJT · 25/10/2020 14:09

@Barbie222 That unfortunately wasn’t possible for us, my son has some attachment difficulties and he has suffered trauma. As a result he can’t be left to his own devices.

His schools online and paper provision was very good and would have worked very well for the average child.

Barbie222 · 25/10/2020 14:10

And even if that is fixed, people working from home still can't look after their children as they are... working. My brother was in charge of the council's coronavirus response. He couldn't also look after a 2 year old she a six year old at the same time.

This is very difficult to juggle. I wonder what options there would be in a proposed school closure for childcare for a 2 year old.

For the six year old, he would have been in the same position as I was.

PicsInRed · 25/10/2020 14:10

For a lot of parents, it will be a stark choice between gettig the wfh workload done and keeping their jobs - thereby keeping a roof over their kids' heads and food in their stomachs OR facilitating the home learning.

Food and shelter will win (as it should) and education will lose.

The schools need to remain open.

baller20 · 25/10/2020 14:11

Please be aware that was not the case in many, many schools, where key worker children completed the same work as their peers.

Is there any data?

I completely forgot about that element and as a key worker was offered a place but it was made very clear it wasn't the same offer.

monkeytennis97 · 25/10/2020 14:11

"Schools need to remain open"

How do you propose this will happen when they are already closing?

baller20 · 25/10/2020 14:13

@monkeytennis97 how many are closed?

Sunflowers246 · 25/10/2020 14:14

All the schools around us (Greater London) have remained fully open this whole half term. Only a small handful of children had to be sent home.

So I don't know where in the country schools have already closed? Confused

Barbie222 · 25/10/2020 14:16

@Sunflowers246

All the schools around us (Greater London) have remained fully open this whole half term. Only a small handful of children had to be sent home.

So I don't know where in the country schools have already closed? Confused

I'm sure there are some ways you could find out data about the swathe of country north of Watford, if you really wanted to.

Are you actually Boris

Sonnenscheins · 25/10/2020 14:17

@monkeytennis97 , I don't know any schools that have closed, other than this coming week for half term.

All schools around us (Surrey) have remained open and my ds hasn't missed a day of school yet.

SueEllenMishke · 25/10/2020 14:17

People who can't wfh will likely be key workers and have their children in school as was previously the case.

I'm a university lecturer who is expected to teach on campus - I'm not a key worker.
If we move online I'm still expected to teach at a set timetabled time for up to 3 hours at a time.

How can I homeschool and care for my child at the same time as teaching my students???

baller20 · 25/10/2020 14:18

@Barbie222 I can't see anything on google, can you link article?

Barbie222 · 25/10/2020 14:18

If we move online I'm still expected to teach at a set timetabled time for up to 3 hours at a time.

How can I homeschool and care for my child at the same time as teaching my students???

You will have to do one around the other, if it comes to that.

I am quite proud of how academia leaders are standing up for their staff, by the way.

Barbie222 · 25/10/2020 14:20

@baller20 what data do you mean?

IceCreamAndCandyfloss · 25/10/2020 14:22

Yes, maybe there will be some extra deaths as a result of keeping schools open, but unfortunately we need to ask the question what is most important to us as a society

Lives over education every time. I’m sure every child and adult would rather have their relatives/parents alive than a school open. At least I hope they would. Education doesn’t have to be sat at a desk in school.

monkeytennis97 · 25/10/2020 14:22

@Sonnenscheins check out BRTUS on Twitter or Facebook they have a rolling tally of bubble/class/school closures although there is under reporting and a lag too.

52andblue · 25/10/2020 14:22

PMK

baller20 · 25/10/2020 14:23

@Barbie222 data on the below?

Please be aware that was not the case in many, many schools, where key worker children completed the same work as their peers.

Everyone I knew had a similar provision that was offered to me but I don't know every key worker or school so I was interested if there was any data.

SueEllenMishke · 25/10/2020 14:23

@Barbie222

If we move online I'm still expected to teach at a set timetabled time for up to 3 hours at a time.

How can I homeschool and care for my child at the same time as teaching my students???

You will have to do one around the other, if it comes to that.

I am quite proud of how academia leaders are standing up for their staff, by the way.

So I teach my 6 year old at the crack of dawn or late at night then yeah?? I'm sure that will work brilliantly .... 🙄
Rabbitholebonkers · 25/10/2020 14:25

I agree OP. They are deluded, it makes me cringe when I read “blended learning”. There is no such thing. It’s usually a blind privilege viewpoint.

OpheliasCrayon · 25/10/2020 14:26

@SueEllenMishke I've always found my 5 year old works best at 5pm when I've finished teaching my school students online. And like you say 7am when everyone has just got up is always a winner!

It's ridiculous - it's not sustainable. We can't literally be two people at once in ten different places!

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