Stricter measures than ever before. Wales to restrict what supermarkets can sell.

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www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-54648194

We didn't have that in the "first wave". Despite some confusion, it was perfectly OK for essential shops to also sell non-essentials, and for customers to purchase them on the same visit as doing essential shopping. Now, in Wales, it's not OK, the stated reason being "fairness" to small businesses.

I think this could be a first sign of things to come. I fully expect measures at least as strict as, and possibly stricter than, what we saw in March. And I expect local to become regional to become national. Because anything less just isn't keeping Covid-19 under control.

@cardibach true, I'm just responding from the fact I didn't know lats night and apparently neither did supermarket in this article. It certainly wasn't mentioned in the initial lockdown announcement.

It means for those who haven't night ahead for things or can't afford to them they are in a difficult situation.

I guess from my perspective the first time around in lockdown we were restricted but we made do, but now my children are in school and it's harder to make do when school as them to dress up for example but all shops are shut (except online) Or homework involved getting craft supplies.

I just googled Mark Drakeford. He has a PhD from Exeter.

Suppose it just goes to show you can be book smart, and simultaneously very, very dim.

How come all the supermarkets had rolls of this plastic to cover "non-essentials" with?

What do they normally use it for?

How and why are people adhereing to something which isn't law and more importantly isn't defined in law?

The reason you have things defined in law is to stop differences in interpretation which can lead to disputes and conflicts.

Honestly everyone in Wales has utterly lost their minds. They should be taking down plastic wrapping and taking things to the tills in protest!

People should be going to the supermarket IN protest.

Covid is an issue, but when your solution to it is to make non legally binding decrees and to create a situation where 'rules' are not defined in law then you unwittingly have created a situation which is more problematic than the virus itself whether you realise it or not.

Insane.

I really hope that Wales asserts itself and tells idiots to bog off because it really is undermining what they are trying to achieve.

[quote Someonesayroadtrip]@cardibach true, I'm just responding from the fact I didn't know lats night and apparently neither did supermarket in this article. It certainly wasn't mentioned in the initial lockdown announcement.

It means for those who haven't night ahead for things or can't afford to them they are in a difficult situation.

I guess from my perspective the first time around in lockdown we were restricted but we made do, but now my children are in school and it's harder to make do when school as them to dress up for example but all shops are shut (except online) Or homework involved getting craft supplies.

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It's easier to make do in summer with a slightly too small t-shirt and last year's flip flops.
But in winter kids need warm, dry clothes and shoes. We've had a mild autumn so far and none of my children have these things yet.

I was in Asda at about 5pm - chaos! Lots of tannoy announcements reminding everyone not to buy any non essentials including fireworks after 6. Aisles cordoned off. I overheard lots of people muttering ffs every time the announcements came on. Wine and alcohol was super busy - I guess we are all nervous on what they will ban next.

It’s like something out of a movie. No one seems to believe it will be just 17 days (well, certainly not in the cities anyway).

Feel so sorry for those who were waiting till pay day to buy stuff (like coats and boots for the kids).

It’s complete crap and there us nothing we can do about it.

Has anyone ever and I mean ever seen Drakefords wife, there is not a trace of her on google. Is there one I have Norman Bates vibes.

@MaxNormal Asda and Tesco still have online shopping! Amazon is not the only online retailer in the U.K. 🙄🙄

@justasking111

Has anyone ever and I mean ever seen Drakefords wife, there is not a trace of her on google. Is there one I have Norman Bates vibes.

I assume she keeps a low profile because of their son maybe.

They have plastic covered cat baskets ffs.

What is this lockdown hoping to achieve.

All I see is it pushing the infections further down the road. It isn’t going to get rid of it and they are willing to total the Welsh economy. How many deaths will that lead to.

I know through dd more deaths because of Covid and the severe lockdowns people were told to live through than I do people who have died through Covid.

It has got ridiculous now. No one truly believes that another 2 weeks/17 days of strict lockdowns is going to do anything in the long run.

No one actually believed shutting the pubs at 10pm will do anything but spread the virus further.

It is the incredulity on the news that bars and restaurants tipping people onto the streets all at the same time led to crowds of people on the streets at the same time. Or the people then bought alcohol and went back to someone’s house to party the night away

Did no one think of that?

@justasking111

Has anyone ever and I mean ever seen Drakefords wife, there is not a trace of her on google. Is there one I have Norman Bates vibes.

This wouldn't be said about a husband.

Women are not the equivalent of a handbag for male politicians. They don't have to be put on show as part of their husband's job description.

@lockdownconfused so still not helping small businesses and still utterly pointless then.

This wouldn't be said about a husband.

Women are not the equivalent of a handbag for male politicians. They don't have to be put on show as part of their husband's job description.
I don't think PP implied she had to be on display, just that it's odd that Google brings up no photo of her. People used to talk about Theresa May's husband, and Lord knows there's a lot of murmurings about Nicola Sturgeon...

You all need to take a step back and really look at what we are allowing to happen to humanity and society for the sake of a bloody virus that is harmless to the majority of the population. Shame on everyone who believes in the annihilation of freedom, rights and acceptance of government control that will destroy our children's future. You should hand your heads in shame.

@SorrelBlackbeak

Currently around 30% of purchases are made online, but this has been a huge jump in 10 years. Although it's unlikely that 100% of shopping will ever be online, each incremental change will make it harder for bricks and mortar stores to make any sort of profit, particularly when the costs are higher than online operating costs.

It therefore seems a bit shortsighted to force people either to do without ( which will work for many things but not all) or go online as it embeds the default option of online to more people and for more transactions.

Yes. People just saying can't they wait are missing the point. They may very well be able for most purchases. But they won't.

@justasking111

Has anyone ever and I mean ever seen Drakefords wife, there is not a trace of her on google. Is there one I have Norman Bates vibes.

A bit like Alex Salmond's wife then?

@StarCat2020

How come all the supermarkets had rolls of this plastic to cover "non-essentials" with?

What do they normally use it for?

Either cage liners or shrink wrap has been used, both are usually well stocked. We had to make do with what we had seeing as we were given virtually no notice.

Moira Salmond has done a lot of work behind the scenes and occasionally in front of camera. An interesting woman.

@Jakobabear
thank you!!

So did the government specifically issue guidance to the big supermarkets to completely cover up specific items? I'm just really intrigued as to whether there was some kind of lost given or whether Head Offices took it upon themselves to go a bit mad with it. Especially when shops like Home Bargains and Wilko are open, and presumably haven't taped up 95% of the store..? Does anyone know of the Lidl/Aldi aisle of delight are cordoned off? Will they delay specialbuys for us?!

People are getting a bit hysterical about this. Surely the aim is to reduce the time spent in the supermarket, as many for some inexplicable reason seem to like taking the whole family to browse, rather than buy what they need and get out.

@user1471562688

You all need to take a step back and really look at what we are allowing to happen to humanity and society for the sake of a bloody virus that is harmless to the majority of the population. Shame on everyone who believes in the annihilation of freedom, rights and acceptance of government control that will destroy our children's future. You should hand your heads in shame.

Well, the pro lockdown lobby certainly need to do this.

@TildaKauskumholm

People are getting a bit hysterical about this. Surely the aim is to reduce the time spent in the supermarket, as many for some inexplicable reason seem to like taking the whole family to browse, rather than buy what they need and get out.

But that isn’t the aim, is it. It’s for “fairness” to businesses who sell the non essential stuff that can’t open

How many cases of Covid are or have been spread in supermarkets? I thought it was mainly houses where it was spread now

I don’t really get the outrage over this, it’s obviously to reduce people spending time out shopping therefore reducing the spread of the virus. I also understand it would be infuriating if you were a local retailer and forced to close when the Tesco down the road was allowed to stay open selling goods you could provide. I know places like B&M did this anyway at the start of the first lockdown too with only the food and toiletries/cleaning product aisles open.