Stricter measures than ever before. Wales to restrict what supermarkets can sell.

[safariboot]

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-54648194

We didn't have that in the "first wave". Despite some confusion, it was perfectly OK for essential shops to also sell non-essentials, and for customers to purchase them on the same visit as doing essential shopping. Now, in Wales, it's not OK, the stated reason being "fairness" to small businesses.

I think this could be a first sign of things to come. I fully expect measures at least as strict as, and possibly stricter than, what we saw in March. And I expect local to become regional to become national. Because anything less just isn't keeping Covid-19 under control.

[BeyondsConstantBangingHeadache]

I agree with restrictions, I'm ECV and take covid ridiculously seriously. I just disagree with these items deemed "non-essential" by a group of people who have clearly never lived on the breadline.

I don't care about someone who can't upgrade their food processor (to pick a random example), they are those who are able to wait 17 days or buy online. I'm worried about the vulnerable people who are going to slip through the cracks.

[TheClaws]

@Oliversmumsarmy

TheClaws

I was answering someone who made out it was so easy to just make a card.

Don’t think in my post I said anything about Covid. I was laughing at Nicola Sturgeon and Mark Drakeford in their one upmanship and trying to outdo the other to show how caring they are.

At worse Covid kills about 16% of the elderly. Which means it isn’t an automatic death sentence. It has an 84% recovery rate.
The younger you are then the easier this disease is to get over.

I know a family all perfectly healthy and in the younger age group who haven’t been outside their garden since March
Apparently according to them both Dp (cancer) and my MIL (95 with dementia and in a care home) should be dead as they both had Covid. To them anyone who gets it is facing a death sentence.

Is this how you feel? Do you think that every elderly or ill person who gets Covid means they are going to die.

That was me who "made out it was easy to make a card". It is, by the way.

As for the rest of your post, how do you extrapolate that from what I wrote?

[CrappleUmble]

[quote MushMonster]@justasking111 thanks for that link.
Well the sad logical outcome has already happened. First example in the link, mother trying to buy clean PJs for child just admitted to hospital because current clothing was covered in blood. She could not get any in the supermarket 5 min from the hospital.[/quote]
This is no great surprise either. You take 3 million people, inevitably in a period of 17 days some of them are going to have situations where they urgently need access to some of these alleged non-essentials. There won't just be a pause put on kids arriving at emergency foster placements with nothing other than the clothes they've got on, unexpected hospital stays following accidents or bedding being ruined by bodily fluids.

I can understand people saying that's a price worth paying and the lesser evil, and if that's what a person thinks then by all means make the case. Maybe they're right. Pretending none of this is going to happen and whining about spoiled people and birthday cards, though? That's just dim.

[justasking111]

Breaking news

[BrieAndChilli]

I can see them allowing everyone to mix with family for Christmas Day/boxing day as they won’t want to be Scrooge’s, allow people to travel the width and breadth of the country. Then they will have another 2 week strict lockdown. This would mean of people had caught if from family etc it would stop it spreading further.

[TheClaws]

It's shocking how people have abandoned independent thinking

Hasn't it just

[RedToothBrush]

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-54681885
Wales national lockdown in new year 'likely', says minister

Not just 17 days then it seems.

And I suspect that people will now go nuts ahead of the next national lockdown because of the non-essential ban this time around.

And for everyone in England I hope you are paying full attention:
Deputy Economy and Transport Minister, Lee Waters, said the current firebreak was unlikely to be the last in Wales - with England "expected" to follow.

[BeyondsConstantBangingHeadache]

My tin opener came with my grocery delivery btw, so that answers my wondering whether online groceries count as “supermarket” or “online”

[BooksAreNotEssentialInWales]

@BeyondsConstantBangingHeadache - essentials haven't been defined so it may be your supermarket thinks tin openers are essential, but another may not. Ironically the fact my supermarket felt pumpkins weren't essential meant I had an extra shopping trip to a shop where they were on sale!

[justasking111]

All this to save an NHS which nurses and doctors have been begging us to help for years. Their pleas fell on deaf ears. The hypocrisy is just disgusting.

[Whitworth]

taking the piss now..

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-54685886

[ChaChaCha2012]

@Whitworth Tesco have admitted they made a mistake and are putting it right.

[CeeJay81]

You can get tin openers, crayons and duvets here in our local supermarket. We don't sell our own clothes like Asda and Tesco but the only thing you couldn't buy was toys.

I think there's been a lot of misunderstanding about what supermarkets can and can't sell

[YardleyX]

And that misunderstanding comes from the leadership.

Buck stops with Drakeford. Whether you agree with the principle of the idea or not, the implementation and communication of it was worse than poor.

[CeeJay81]

I agree Yardley X. It was a rule rushed in at the last minute and it's caused more hassle than it was worth.

[Whitworth]

yes it was a mistake but who on earth thought in the first place that sanitary products wouldn't be essential (well I can probably guess).

[Whitworth]

Yes CeeJay it was all last minute so a lot of confusion

[MushMonster]

www.southwalesargus.co.uk/news/18821666.supermarkets-can-sell-non-essentials-wales-cases/
Well it looks like you can get non-essentials in the supermarket in case of hardship.
So that is better!
At least they have started to think about their people. I xannot believe they missed it first time!

[MushMonster]

As I said before, I do not mind not buying non-essentials for 17 days at all IF anyone who happens to need something with urgency can actually get it

[MRex]

It's not just sanitary products in that photo, toothbrushes and toothpaste as well. Perhaps this person (man) also thinks they only need to brush their teeth to go to the pub.

[CeeJay81]

or maybe it was nothing to do with the firebreak and was a break in🙄
www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/tesco-explains-period-products-were-19166875

[Orcus]

[quote ChaChaCha2012]@Whitworth Tesco have admitted they made a mistake and are putting it right.[/quote]
The fact that it happened once is an outrage.

[Whitworth]

It's all a bit of a mess. Break in or not they have caused a lot of confusion by saying on twitter they were non essential

[TracyBeakerSoYeah]

I don't know why any supermarket would cordon off toiletries, health & beauty as any items sold under that category are available in pharmacies.
Some people are right muppets!

[cologne4711]

[quote CeeJay81]or maybe it was nothing to do with the firebreak and was a break in🙄
www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/tesco-explains-period-products-were-19166875[/quote]
The person on the Tesco twitter feed thought it was though. Tesco needs to recruit social media bods with more common sense.