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Tier 3 - local holiday??? Confused by advice

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Keepgoing88 · 21/10/2020 09:52

Hi, we are soon to go into tier 3. I have a short break booked somewhere which is a 2 hour drive away (tier 2). I assumed I would have to cancel but the guidance says this so I am confused!!

‘People in Tier 3 zones can take a holiday, but the advice is to only do so in local hotels and holiday accommodation to avoid leaving the area.‘

Has anyone else experience this situation?

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NatMoz · 21/10/2020 09:58

Literally just made a thread on this as in the same boat.

The way I read that is, as a resident of Greater Manchester I have to go on holiday in GM? Sunny Oldham anyone?

Surely that can't be right?

LadyCatStark · 21/10/2020 10:04

I think you have to stay in your local area, which defeats the object of going on holiday. Basically it’s the government’s way of not having to pay hotels to shut. My options for a holiday are Blackpool or Morecambe: lucky me 😂. I can drive to both within 25 mins anyway so why would o go on holiday there in the cold and rain??

notevenat20 · 21/10/2020 10:07

Is that a legal restriction or just strong advice?

NatMoz · 21/10/2020 10:14

I genuinely don't know! It's so unclear.

ChaChaCha2012 · 21/10/2020 10:17

Guidance asks you not to travel, but there's no legal restriction on you doing so.

Could be worse, my only option would be Mansfield!

NatMoz · 21/10/2020 10:18

Also I am wondering if as a tier 3 can I move into other tier 3s? Go on holiday to Liverpool/Lancashire/South Yorkshire (once confirmed). BoJo have grouped us all together anyway!

Also what does the Lake District fall under? Lancashire or Cumbria?

ChaChaCha2012 · 21/10/2020 10:23

Here is the relevant legislation. The thing with legislation is that it only tells you what you can't do, so you have to read through it all to check. I've read it and can confirm there are no travel restrictions.

www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2020/1105/schedule/1

ChaChaCha2012 · 21/10/2020 10:24

Yes, you can travel between Tier 3 areas.

The Lake District is a mixture of Tier 1 and Tier 2.

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Keepgoing88 · 21/10/2020 10:53

Thanks all, I’m still confused - so legally I can still go?!

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Keepgoing88 · 21/10/2020 10:57

Mine is a Parkdean holiday and their wording Says (if the park or you is in tier 3): ‘Any customers travelling to or living in a restricted area with an arrival date up to the 1st November and who no longer wish to travel, are able to (list of
Options)’
So what I pick up on here is that ‘wish to travel’ which to me makes it sound like it is a choice!!!

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SleepingStandingUp · 21/10/2020 11:00

It is a choice. You can choose to travel fr your area of high infection to an area of lower infection. I mean I'm sure all the tier 1 and 2 people are just desperate for people from tier 3 to visit Hmm

HarrietOh · 21/10/2020 11:21

As it's just advice not law, people will go as a lot of places then wouldn't refund.

RunningKatie · 21/10/2020 12:45

We are going into Tier 3 but booked to go away the day before (paid for a year ago so not last minute!). Holiday cottage company in Tier 1 are happy for us to go.
We won't be mixing with other households but it still feels a bit uncomfortable.

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Keepgoing88 · 21/10/2020 13:18

@RunningKatie do you think you will go? We think we are going to go. It’s just our family and if we are not doing anything illegal we think we might, I’m not 100% comfortable with it yet but leaning towards going

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SeaDreaming · 21/10/2020 13:21

I'm currently in tier 2, with a few days booked in a guest house in tier 1. They've said upfront that their policy is that if I'm travelling from tier 3 (if where I live gets upgraded) I won't be able to stay overnight.

MiracletoCome · 21/10/2020 13:44

It depends if the place lets you stay there, if it does then it’s ok to go as it is not law just advice not to go. We are at a Caravan Club site this week and that is not open to tier three but if the place you are going to is then I would probably go.

covidmonkey · 21/10/2020 13:56

We might go to a caravan in tier 1 next week if the weather is good. We live in tier 3.

RunningKatie · 21/10/2020 14:01

Dh is getting the cases out @Keepgoing88 - he's spoken to the cottage company and they are very much saying it is an advisory so people can travel.
We are supposed to stick to Tier 3 rules but that's fine.
Obviously not going to Wales, I realise their rules are different.

Toddlerteaplease · 21/10/2020 14:10

I'm in tier 2 (but at the time had the highest cases in the country) and had a night away booked in tier 3. I only cancelled it as my parents kicked up such a fuss. I went for the day instead.

SummerHouse · 21/10/2020 14:13

In the highest tier as I understand it, you are not supposed to go into it or out of it.

Frazzled2207 · 21/10/2020 14:17

@SummerHouse

In the highest tier as I understand it, you are not supposed to go into it or out of it.
Indeed however this does not seem to be a legal requirement.

I suspect this means you won't get a refund so in your shoes I'd go but avoid everyone else outside my household as much as possible.

boredorboard · 21/10/2020 14:21

This is such a selfish thread. The rules are quite clear that you should not leave tier 3 to holiday elsewhere. If you do you could spread the virus to an area with low cases at present. We've all lost holidays this year and if people still selfishly break the rules to suit themselves we are never going to beat COVID. Shameful!

Saucery · 21/10/2020 14:23

You are advised not to go in/ out of the highest (Tier 3) but it just that, advice. It is not illegal to do so. Whether holiday companies set extra restrictions on staying in their properties is up to them and they can refuse to host Tier 3 residents if they like, but if they are happy for people to stay then it’s up to the traveller whether they do so or not.
Exception might be Wales, where local restrictions around boundaries may have a basis in law, so bet to check.

‘Must not’ is law.
‘Should / shouldn’t ‘ is advice.

I personally didn’t book anywhere due to the changeable legislation and the faff of trying to get money back some people have experienced, but if I had and I was only going to that property and not mixing with anyone else, then I’d be going.

nomorespaghetti · 21/10/2020 14:32

I’m in GM, so now t3, we’d booked to go to centre parcs in half term, but have had to cancel as centre parcs policy is to ask t3 not to come. So although it’s not illegal to travel, it’s their policy. You might need to look at the policy of your accommodation OP. Centre parcs have a really good cancellation policy, which is why we took the risk of booking. Sad times, we really needed a change of scenery!

Lovemusic33 · 21/10/2020 15:40

Advice is not to travel but you won’t be arrested if you do, it’s just advice. If I was in a tier 3 I would not be travelling out of your area, if I was in tier 1 I wouldn’t be travelling to a tier 2 or 3 area either. It may not be against the law but it’s common sense and if people want to spend Christmas with their families it’s best to follow the guidelines.

We cancelled our trip away (had too as it was Wales) but have booked a hotel instead in a tier 1, we are also in tier 1. I would hope there wouldn’t be people in the hotel from tier 3.