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Tier 3 - local holiday??? Confused by advice

75 replies

Keepgoing88 · 21/10/2020 09:52

Hi, we are soon to go into tier 3. I have a short break booked somewhere which is a 2 hour drive away (tier 2). I assumed I would have to cancel but the guidance says this so I am confused!!

‘People in Tier 3 zones can take a holiday, but the advice is to only do so in local hotels and holiday accommodation to avoid leaving the area.‘

Has anyone else experience this situation?

OP posts:
Hobbesmanc · 22/10/2020 13:49

We went into tier three this week and have had a special trip booked to Northumbria booked ages due to leave tonight.

We cancelled - and lost a deposit. It just seemed selfish to travel to a small community and stay in a pub with rooms. eating and exploring

Frazzled2207 · 22/10/2020 14:43

@NatMoz
yes!

RonaLisa · 22/10/2020 15:52

It's all bollocks.

If someone were coming from a Tier 3 area to stay with me, I'd use my common sense. If they were a student at Manchester University, I might not hug them. But if they're my aunt in Cheshire, I wouldn't give it a second's thought.

Bloody Covid.

HolidayLetter · 22/10/2020 15:55

@Hobbesmanc

We went into tier three this week and have had a special trip booked to Northumbria booked ages due to leave tonight.

We cancelled - and lost a deposit. It just seemed selfish to travel to a small community and stay in a pub with rooms. eating and exploring

It's a hard one. Yes, that does seem selfish - but so many of these communities are completely dependent on people coming and spending. Every time someone cancels their holiday, the chances of a business going under increase that bit more. Not to mention owners, who have now been without income in some cases since early March (there are lots of us who don't have any other income).

There are no winners in this one.

Bailey0703 · 22/10/2020 16:57

Really ? Are people so bloody thick that they can't work this out for themselves regardless of it being law or advice ?

If you live in an area of high infection why would you in a million years think it ok to travel to an area that has less infection - thereby running the risk of spreading infection ? Unless you are simply supremely selfish ?

Equally - if you live in a low risk area why would you travel to a high risk area and then run the risk of increased chance of contracting the virus and bringing it back ?

Sadly the government credits the public with having enough common sense to work this out for themselves . Once again they have under estimated just how self centred so many people are - who all seem to believe THEIR reasons are the exception!

I also don't but the ' we will just be by ourselves' .. it's utter bollocks. You are going to travel to a holiday place so realistically a good few hours away from home and outside your 'tier'... and you will not be using a petrol station , supermarket, public toilet on the way - and when you arrive at your holiday cottage/chalet/caravan /hotel you can GUARANTEE that your accommodation has not been touched by someone who may carry COVID in the 72 hrs before your arrival ? (Virus lives on surface for up to 72 hrs)

Honestly- no bloody wonder we are in the state we are in.

flissity · 22/10/2020 17:46

How about if you live in Tier 1, are going on holiday to Tier 1. But the most efficient route is through a tier 2 or 3 area?

Bailey0703 · 22/10/2020 18:37

Then common sense dictates that you make sure you don't have to stop anywhere in the other tiers .

flissity · 22/10/2020 18:40

Well yes you definitely wouldn’t stop. But wonder if you can drive through? as a holiday isn’t essential travel.
I have clearly answered my own question Shock haha

BikeRunSki · 22/10/2020 18:44

If you live in an area of high infection why would you in a million years think it ok to travel to an area that has less infection - thereby running the risk of spreading infection ? Unless you are simply supremely selfish ?

Equally - if you live in a low risk area why would you travel to a high risk area and then run the risk of increas

I live in a Tier 2 area, currently under discussion to become Tier 3. DM lives by herself in Tier 1, 250 miles away. I’ve just told her that we are not going to visit fir half term. She’s very upset and we both lost our tempers a bit. It would be so easy to go, but we won’t, but I can certainly see why people would travel between tiers.

Lovemusic33 · 22/10/2020 19:28

@flissity

How about if you live in Tier 1, are going on holiday to Tier 1. But the most efficient route is through a tier 2 or 3 area?
As long as you don’t stop in the tier 2 or 3 then it shouldn’t be an issue?
balzamico · 22/10/2020 19:46

And yet, you can now go to the Canaries from any tier????

Emmie12345 · 22/10/2020 19:48

Our LA has advised accommodation owners to cancel bookings from tier 3 guests, I’m in SW

Clearasmuddypuddles · 22/10/2020 20:29

@Emmie12345 with or without refunds?

HateIsNotGood · 22/10/2020 20:45

Apparently some Insurance Companies are advising Accommodation Owners that their entire Insurance becomes invalidated if they accept Tier 3 guests. It was on BBC SW or ITV West country News this evening (can't remember which).

Ilovewalks · 22/10/2020 20:48

My sister was hoping to go away with her hubby and daughter next week for half term. Hubby has a project in the town they were going to visit and he was only going to take them along because he's working there otherwise they wouldn't even consider go away. The accommodation refused the family and said only her hubby could go but they weren't too keen on him going either. Sister and daughter would have kept themselves to themselves and just gone on walks in the day and in the evening the three would sit in the accommodation.

Lovemusic33 · 22/10/2020 20:58

@Ilovewalks

My sister was hoping to go away with her hubby and daughter next week for half term. Hubby has a project in the town they were going to visit and he was only going to take them along because he's working there otherwise they wouldn't even consider go away. The accommodation refused the family and said only her hubby could go but they weren't too keen on him going either. Sister and daughter would have kept themselves to themselves and just gone on walks in the day and in the evening the three would sit in the accommodation.
Doesn’t really make any difference if they are not planning on going near people whilst there, they could easily bring covid into the accommodation?
Ilovewalks · 22/10/2020 21:16

They don't have covid and wouldn't go if they had symptoms. Should her hubby's work not being doing work outside of tier 3 then? The accommodation were happy for her hubby to go, so if the family could bring covid into the accommodation then surely the hubby could.

Lovemusic33 · 22/10/2020 21:45

Most people have no symptoms 😬

Advice is not to travel unless necessary, work is considered necessary, taking your family on holiday isn’t. Though if works not essential then no he shouldn’t be going either.

Brighterthansunflowers · 22/10/2020 23:27

In the welsh local lockdowns (not the impending full lockdown) you weren’t allowed to travel in or out of the locked down counties. But if you were travelling from a non-locked down county to another non-locked down county, you were allowed to travel through a locked down county if necessary. Welsh rules have generally been stricter with travelling out of high risk areas being against the law, not just “guidance”. Since Boris wouldn’t even go as far as properly banning travel from tier 3 areas, I think it’s fine to travel through them to get between low risk areas as long as you don’t stop anywhere.

MumAmI · 17/12/2020 13:33

I have reserved vacation to lake district.
At the time we were Tier 2, they are tier 2
subsequent to the reservation our tier has changed to tier 3

Question is it illegal or does it face fines if i take family still?

leaving residence (safe place)
driving in own car (safe place)
staying at private remote let (safe place)

if it is not illegal and will not impose fines is there gov document i could have link to incase we stopped by police during journey

Matchsticklady · 17/12/2020 13:37

It says on the government websites under the rules that in tier 3 hotels, air bnb etc have to close. And that you shouldn’t travel outside your tier unless it’s essential.
Not sure what’s confusing about that? We are tier 3 and had a break booked in tier 2 and cancelled because it goes against the advice/rules.

MumAmI · 17/12/2020 13:40

Should not is not same as must not though.
Is travel illegal?

Again, if healthy family goes from safe place to safe remote and private dwelling this poses no risk

Lifeispassingby · 17/12/2020 13:56

I love the whole ‘I won’t care one into contact with anyone while I’m there’ logic. Except you will if you get ill, have an accident or crash in your car and need medical treatment. I just read on another thread of an NHS worker who treated someone positive for covid following a car accident and it spread through the department from that one person

MumAmI · 17/12/2020 14:29

Hi, I believe there are many opinions regarding this topic, and of course, each person is entitled to their own opinion.

I am not asking for opinions though?
Does anyone have legal knowledge regarding the matter of travel?
Is it illegal to travel, will fines be imposed?

Just a note on general posts-
Stories and negativity on posts could easily be miscontrued. Judgements should be reserved - you dont know another persons situation, assumptions tend to lead to larger problems

MumAmI · 17/12/2020 14:29

Hi, I believe there are many opinions regarding this topic, and of course, each person is entitled to their own opinion.

I am not asking for opinions though?
Does anyone have legal knowledge regarding the matter of travel?
Is it illegal to travel, will fines be imposed?

Just a note on general posts-
Stories and negativity on posts could easily be misconstrued. Judgements should be reserved - you don't know another person situation, assumptions tend to lead to larger problems

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