Would the schools problem be solved by masks

[notevenat20]

If all secondary school children wore masks all day and we only then sent home people who sat next to them at lunch if they got covid, would that solve most of the covid schools problem?

It's exactly what they do in France.

Yes but is that pre puberty children or post?

lola they are given one for the morning and they get a note in their book with a warning that they must bring one for the afternoon.

Yes but is that pre puberty children or post?

If I remember the paper I read correctly, we just get more and more infectious up until adulthood.

They are mandatory for everyone in school, regardless of any issues. One child with autism wouldn't wear one so he has to be homeschooled. Same in town, if you can't wear a mask then you're not allowed in town and in shops.

The trouble with using that graph showing the rise in cases for 10 to 19 year old is that there is vast difference between primary, secondary, 6th form and university. Unless it's broken down to each type of school/age range then it's useless data.

We know the majority of cases are in university and not in the other educational places.

@Oaktree55

Look facts:

Formite transmission including touching a mask is transpiring not to be an issue at all.

It’s all aerosols in badly ventilated environments.

Yes masks help a lot indoors. Should kids wear them. Yes.

For those saying it didn’t work in France who knows how much mask wearing has helped? The situation may he far worse without them.

Masks reduce viral dose. There’s a theory that even if not preventing transmission 100% it limits severity of infection.

Kids wear masks happily (in the main). It’s adults that project their irrational fear of them!

If fomite transmission is proving “not to be an issue at all,” then why on earth are people, schools and businesses being forced to spend so much money on cleaning products, cleaning staff and hand sanitisers? We could all save loads of money on going back to being as filthy as usual and lending each other used masks if someone’s forgotten theirs.

@Clutterbugsmum

The trouble with using that graph showing the rise in cases for 10 to 19 year old is that there is vast difference between primary, secondary, 6th form and university. Unless it's broken down to each type of school/age range then it's useless data.

We know the majority of cases are in university and not in the other educational places.

The breakdown shows that the vast majority are in secondary and primary schools. Universities make up a very small minority. This shows the breakdown.

@Clutterbugsmum

The trouble with using that graph showing the rise in cases for 10 to 19 year old is that there is vast difference between primary, secondary, 6th form and university. Unless it's broken down to each type of school/age range then it's useless data.

We know the majority of cases are in university and not in the other educational places.

But that isn't true is it? Despite everyone wanting to pretend otherwise. In fact that is just a lie.

Indeed @Itisasecret

And @Witchend

I don’t imagine drama, dance, PE, or music could be taught normally at the moment.

My dd does GCSE drama, it seems to be being taught fairly normally at the moment tbh. They are working on their devised pieces in slightly smaller groups than they might in usual years, and the teacher is keeping her distance, but otherwise they're just getting on with it. Same with PE - apart from wearing their PE kit in school all day, they're just doing it as usual.

I'm not saying that they should carry on as usual. Just that, for the most part, that's what they seem to be doing at my dd's school (state comprehensive). Personally, I think much more should be done to keep teachers and students safe, but it's not happening at the moment.

@AlexaShutUp it's generally more normal for the exam years as sometimes smaller classes. Many many schools (am in contact with lots of other teachers that teach my subject) are doing as much as they can to keep it as normal as possible for exam classes (I can't do about half of my curriculum for exam years at the moment) but the younger years, where class sizes are much larger, are not having a normal experience in most of these subjects.

@AlexaShutUp thank you for your support regarding safety

monkeytennis97, that makes sense re the difference between exam years and other years. My dd is in year 11, so on the one hand, I'm grateful that things are carrying on as normal to some extent, but on the other hand, I have been really surprised by the extent to which this has been allowed to happen. Perhaps you're right and it's much less normal for kids further down the school.

As for the safety thing, it's a no-brainer in my opinion. It should not even need to be said that teachers ought to have the same right to work in a safe environment as any other employee, but sadly, the government has chosen to shove them under the bus instead. Unsurprising, but shocking nonetheless.

myrtilles I agree. I think we were better off with strict social distancing, arrows on floors and no masks. I think the Government like masks because it shows they are 'doing something'.

But that isn't true is it? Despite everyone wanting to pretend otherwise. In fact that is just a lie.

Term started at our local big university one week ago and according to my friends there,a lot of flats of first years are in lock down. This is particularly true in halls. They don't seem to test the other students in a flat and in any case the students believe that at most half of a flat/house can be tested. I suspect that most of the first year will be infected in a week or two.

The children at my local high school wear masks all day. No problems with it so far.

The children at my local high school wear masks all day. No problems with it so far.

Do you work there?
Most of ours turn up at the start of the day with one...

@Lolaloveslemonade yup same here. Through the gates, masks off.

I really do think some parents (not all thankfully) really do think that their children and teens go to school, wear their masks appropriately, wash and sanitise their hands regularly & keep a 1m distance between themselves and others on corridors and at social times.
If you think any of the above is happening, you are wrong!

@Lolaloveslemonade

I really do think some parents (not all thankfully) really do think that their children and teens go to school, wear their masks appropriately, wash and sanitise their hands regularly & keep a 1m distance between themselves and others on corridors and at social times. If you think any of the above is happening, you are wrong!

Agree. I think-out of sight, out of mind.

@Lolaloveslemonade

I really do think some parents (not all thankfully) really do think that their children and teens go to school, wear their masks appropriately, wash and sanitise their hands regularly & keep a 1m distance between themselves and others on corridors and at social times. If you think any of the above is happening, you are wrong!

They really can make conkers fly though. It’s like the modern day version.

I really do think some parents (not all thankfully) really do think that their children and teens go to school, wear their masks appropriately, wash and sanitise their hands regularly & keep a 1m distance between themselves and others on corridors and at social times.

To be fair, there are an awful lot of adults who are incapable of sticking to those guidelines, so it was never really likely that the kids would all do it.

@ Lolaloveslemonade

Yes, they do they get detention if they don’t.

I am in an area where the compliance amongst adults is high so I think it is more accepted here.