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How can it be illegal to see a member of family? Even from 2m+? Even with a mask? What is this world

183 replies

Napqueen1234 · 10/10/2020 21:40

High risk area so likely to be tier three. In this modern world how can it be illegal to see any family for months and months on end. It’s cruel and unfair and completely unsustainable.

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bluetongue · 10/10/2020 22:32

It’s insane.

I got into an argument with my parents, sister and in-laws over Covid yesterday. When I said to them ‘it’s not like it’s smallpox’ they looked at me like I was crazy. ‘But people are dying’ they said.

They are also convinced that if you don’t die then long Covid and long term organ damage is almost certain. I tried to argue that for the vast majority the disease is either asymptomatic or just has mild symptoms but they were having none of it,

janetmendoza · 10/10/2020 22:36

Happinessischoc. That risk assessment isn't for herself tho is it? She has unwittingly made it for the paramedics who come and take her away when she gets ill l, the porters docs nurses, the care home staff when she gets shunted out of hospital into a care home still sick etcetc.

raysofhope · 10/10/2020 22:37

Completely agree. This represents a disproportionate response to the risk for the majority of people, and in any case we should be able to make our own risk assessments when it comes to family. I care a lot more than the government do about the health risk to my elderly relatives, but there are factors beyond covid to weigh up, not least the detrimental effects of isolation.

Maryann1975 · 10/10/2020 22:40

What makes you think it will be months and months? It could very well be just a few weeks whilst the infection numbers have chance to drop again
It’s already been months and months since I saw my dgm! I Last went To her care home In February and it’s now October! If that isn’t months and months, I don’t know what is!

I’ve also had a row with my Sil about why it’s ok for her Baby to see my parents as she needs that to happen for childcare, but as I don’t need them for childcare, she isn’t happy for my dc to be seeing their grandparents (we aren’t in a local lockdown area) As it puts her baby at greater risk Hmm —maybe pay for your childcare if you aren’t happy then—
Even with the basic restrictions we have here (rule of 6) I’ve pretty much had enough. Life is so restricted and we are all really struggling.

fewming · 10/10/2020 22:41

@bluetongue I'm loathing the politicians right now, but I find it staggering how many 'normal' people I encounter in regular life who are supportive, or even just apathetic, towards these insane measures. So many people have lost all logic and reason. Those who question the validity of all this shit are shouted down as an anti-masker/COVID-denier/flat earther. I find it increasingly worrying.

CrappleUmble · 10/10/2020 22:41

@Napqueen1234

High risk area so likely to be tier three. In this modern world how can it be illegal to see any family for months and months on end. It’s cruel and unfair and completely unsustainable.
And also completely unenforceable...
RonaLisa · 10/10/2020 22:43

@Funkypolar

People are going to get fed up sooner or later and we shall see mass civil disobedience. Tick tock.
God, I hope so.

I have never protested about anything in my life, but I'd protest about this.

I have been sick of lockdown since the day it was announced in March.

GirlCrush · 10/10/2020 22:45

if its alright to have all those people on stage together unmasked onBritains got Talent,then we should be allowed to make our own assessments with regards to family!

Autumngoldleaf · 10/10/2020 22:51

Daftness yes that's awful.

I wouldn't not see her tbh.
It's beyond gruel it's agaisnt all human dignity.

Having said that, op I agree its ridiculous but at the same time so many people have different ideas about covid, they can't be left to make their owners descion on risk.

I know people who never think they could carry any illness and never think of others. That kind of person needs these strict laws.

yawnsvillex · 10/10/2020 22:52

I don't know anyone complying anymore .....

Autumngoldleaf · 10/10/2020 22:53

I don't have any close family I don't see but there's no way I'd leave elderly loved ones alone etc.
I'd make sure my own exposure is reduced and see them.

I'd do everything to keep covid free... And see them.

KitKatastrophe · 10/10/2020 23:01

@RedDiamond

What makes you think it will be months and months? It could very well be just a few weeks whilst the infection numbers have chance to drop again.

I would much rather have to ring my family members than visit them and give them Covid because I did not realise I was carrying it.

If the infection rates drop it will be lauded as a success and that the restrictions are doing so well that we will have to keep them going for ages. Anything to save lives apparently.
secretllama · 10/10/2020 23:07

Yep. Its ridiculous, disgusting, unsustainable and inhumane to expect people to be indefinitely kept away from their friends and family. They can eff off quite frankly, I'm seeing my family when I want and we all feel the same as we absolutely need to for our mental health. Call me selfish, granny killer, whatever. I don't care.

And I agree with previous poster who mentioned how depressing/worrying it is that even the "best" tier isn't normal life.

Fawnfour · 10/10/2020 23:24

Just stick to damn rules, it's been 7 months not 7 years!!!!!!

CountessFrog · 10/10/2020 23:26

Which is all very well isn’t it unless you are terminally ill like my neighbour. So stop telling people what to think.

Sitt · 10/10/2020 23:28

@Fawnfour

Just stick to damn rules, it's been 7 months not 7 years!!!!!!
OK then. After what specific time period will you stop sticking to the damn rules?
Fawnfour · 10/10/2020 23:28

I'm not telling people what to think, I'm stating a fact.

Buckwheat80 · 10/10/2020 23:31

The people who think it's going to be a couple of weeks are pretty naive. It's going to be months and months and months more of this total nonsense, and the number of people who are quite content to go along with it is depressing (to put it mildly).

Fawnfour · 10/10/2020 23:32

I have absolutely no clue, I don't have any answers.
Over time we all just have to hope things get better, but for now, in the great grand scheme of things it hasn't been that long, so yes I think we should all be a United front and follow the rules and pray by doing so things eventually get better

CountessFrog · 10/10/2020 23:33

You did tell people to ‘stick to the rules.’ That’s a command, not a fact.

So yeah, maybe give my neighbour a call and tell her the same. Don’t forget all your exclamation marks, will you?

QueenofmyPrinces · 10/10/2020 23:34

It scares me how many people are willing to simply accept all this?

It’s horrifying what the Government is doing to our country, our society, to us.

How can we live in a time when it’s illegal to see your family?

What’s happening just isn’t right.

BogRollBOGOF · 10/10/2020 23:35

@RedDiamond

What makes you think it will be months and months? It could very well be just a few weeks whilst the infection numbers have chance to drop again.

I would much rather have to ring my family members than visit them and give them Covid because I did not realise I was carrying it.

Leicester have never fully emerged from lockdown with the same rules as the majority of the country.

It doesn't exactly instil confidence this side of the cold/ flu season when cases naturally rise and are unlikely to naturally subside this side of Easter.

12 months ago, some categories of prisoner had more social freedoms than tens of millions of UK citizens have at the moment!

indemMUND · 10/10/2020 23:36

It's a virus. It doesn't give a shit about rules or restrictions, given the lack of sentience. It will rip through any available host. HTH.

Fawnfour · 10/10/2020 23:38

I was simply stating a fact that it has been 7 months not 7 years, that is a fact.
Okay so my opinion of stick to the rules and be a United front is obviously in the minority, so it's more likely that this situation is not going to get any better.

happinessischocolate · 10/10/2020 23:41

@indemMUND

It's a virus. It doesn't give a shit about rules or restrictions, given the lack of sentience. It will rip through any available host. HTH.
Hosts like Prince Charles 71 years old, Boris Johnson 56 years old (and in his own words unhealthy and overweight) and Donald Trump 74 years old.

The virus really ripped through them....