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Who will be in tier three? New announcement next week?

89 replies

rosesandchips · 10/10/2020 12:51

With profuse apologies for the daily fail link:

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8819333/Heat-map-reveals-200-towns-cities-high-Covid-19-infection-rates.html

Does anyone know if this is at all accurate? According to this my area (and much of the country) is in the 'red' and soon to go into some kind of lockdown...

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toffeekiwi · 11/10/2020 02:49

@ChaChaCha2012

increased restrictions for highest areas in north

The highest area is Nottingham, in the Midlands, not the North!

Nottinghamshire is north not the Midlands, it's at least an hour north of us in Herefordshire.
Thisyearsucks · 11/10/2020 03:03

I think we will (Nottinghamshire). Nottingham is currently the highest in the country i believe.

Thisyearsucks · 11/10/2020 03:06

@toffeekiwi We're in the Midlands. We are East Midlands in Notts, not the North.

Juanmorebeer · 11/10/2020 03:29

Nottingham is Midlands!

Waxonwaxoff0 · 11/10/2020 07:55

@toffeekiwi Nottingham is the east Midlands. Just because it's north of where you live doesn't mean it's in the north!

KitKatastrophe · 11/10/2020 08:15

I dont understand why they announce these "announcements" a week ahead and leave everyone to worry and speculate for a week. It just leads to anxiety - last time everyone was panicking it would be a second lock down and it turned out to be a 10pm curfew. Lots of people stressed about impending lockdown for a week for no reason.

And all the speculation just leads to confusion when the actual rules are announced. People get mixed up between what was actually said and was was guessed before, or get confused because they thought they would be "tier 3" but not arent sure what tier they are because it's all conflated.

KitKatastrophe · 11/10/2020 08:19

@user1471439240

There will be an algorithm for this. It will take into account cases, rate of change and things such as hospital beds and more crucially Icu capacity of local health facilities, numbers of aged, composition of employment (wfh privilege), perceived compliance.
I think you're giving the government too much credit for logical thinking here. All the local lockdowns have been pretty ham fisted and based on cases only.
diege · 11/10/2020 08:20

I'm presuming tier 3 would disallow support bubbles? 😫

JacobReesMogadishu · 11/10/2020 08:27

Nottinghamshire is north not the Midlands, it's at least an hour north of us in Herefordshire.

Well seeing as Herefordshire is in the south that’s not surprising that nottingham in the midlands would be further north.

CountessFrog · 11/10/2020 08:29

My recently widowed Elderly MIL is our support bubble. She’s just sold her house and she’s moving. They can get to fuck if they refuse support bubbles.

Hmmph · 11/10/2020 08:36

Algorithms- please no!! They haven’t gone so well for the Government so far!

I want to know what an “area” will be for the restrictions/ different tiers.

tortoiseshell1985 · 11/10/2020 08:39

We will definitely be tier 3 as been under local lockdown anyway for weeks, had a half term holiday booked but doubt we will be going as wouldn't be allowed to travel

camelfinger · 11/10/2020 08:42

Perhaps it will only affect areas north of where anyone lives (joke).

I had read that Richmond’s relatively high cases for London are down to students residing in other cities, so the real rate in areas such as that is low.

Mummyoflittledragon · 11/10/2020 09:15

Lol at Nottingham being in the north. My area is just over 100 so I’m presuming tier 2.

RegularHumanBartender · 11/10/2020 09:32

217 per 100,000 here. Does that automatically mean tier 3?? 😪

lunar1 · 11/10/2020 09:36

I'm in Manchester so there is little doubt we will be in T3. I wonder if they will publish our data separately to the uni numbers at any point.

It probably doesn't make a difference as they would still need to utilise the same hospital resources. The worry is that if people continue to just blame the university students they won't take the rules seriously if they have a false sense of security.

Waxonwaxoff0 · 11/10/2020 09:39

If they say no support bubbles then I'll be ignoring that. Not doing it, sorry.

LloydBC · 11/10/2020 10:00

@KitKatastrophe

I dont understand why they announce these "announcements" a week ahead and leave everyone to worry and speculate for a week. It just leads to anxiety - last time everyone was panicking it would be a second lock down and it turned out to be a 10pm curfew. Lots of people stressed about impending lockdown for a week for no reason.

And all the speculation just leads to confusion when the actual rules are announced. People get mixed up between what was actually said and was was guessed before, or get confused because they thought they would be "tier 3" but not arent sure what tier they are because it's all conflated.

Agree wholeheartedly with this. Unacceptable and avoidable.
RegularHumanBartender · 11/10/2020 10:02

I also agree with the above, wholeheartedly. People need to know, asap.

Witchend · 11/10/2020 10:43

Nottingham North! 🤣

The south begins at Manchester surely?

50/100 000 is very low. It means 75% will be on Red and then those with ten times that amount have nowhere to go.
You'll have the people at the bottom end thinking "oh they're not a proper red level because we're only just in" and the people at the top end thinking "no point trying as we'll never get that low".

It doesn't offer any carrot for following the regulations that I can see.
And actually I'm not sure what I've seen of the regulations in red level actually they're going to make huge differences.

Look how long it took to get down from the peak in April with a full lockdown.
We peaked beginning of April. It took to the beginning of June to get a week under 10k cases a week, and until the end of June to have a week where every day was under 1k cases; we've only had 2 days in total with under 500 cases.

We're looking at around 100k cases this week. Yes, at the peak they're estimating 100k a day, so we're well off that, but I'd still reckon with a full lockdown we'll be looking at December before we see significant decrease now.

PineappleUpsideDownCake · 11/10/2020 10:58

Bbc now saying a second lockdown possible...

HunkyPunk · 11/10/2020 11:07

There will be an algorithm for this. It will take into account cases, rate of change and things such as hospital beds and more crucially Icu capacity of local health facilities, numbers of aged, composition of employment (wfh privilege), perceived compliance.

The fact that there might be an algorithm doesn't fill me with a huge amount of confidence, tbh.

I've heard rumours of a possible 'circuit breaker' lockdown around the half-term holiday. But then, rumours flourish, in an information vacuum.

Legoandloldolls · 11/10/2020 11:24

I think that leave it vague to soften the blow. It's what they have always done so no one will be shocked come Monday.

I am worried I wont be seeing my loved ones until 2021 from Monday. If they dont allow support bubbles then I will have to think hard about how I make sure my mum.stays safe.

Our numbers have gone up by 30 per 100,000in a week.we could all be tier 3 next monday

QueenOllie · 11/10/2020 11:25

327 in my area so guessing 3...

Waxonwaxoff0 · 11/10/2020 11:31

They can't do a second lockdown without reintroducing furlough. There will be a backlash.