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Are we going to seek compensation from China?

78 replies

ZappaDoo · 09/10/2020 20:57

As they handled the initial outbreak badly, silencing that Doctor and all... Just wondering if this was likely?

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ANoTail · 09/10/2020 22:28

Thanks China?
It's not an engineered virus. A pandemic hasn't been started to piss you off. A billion Chinese people aren't rubbing their hands in glee as they see Corona virus spread around the world.

feelingverylazytoday · 09/10/2020 22:41

@ANoTail

Thanks China? It's not an engineered virus. A pandemic hasn't been started to piss you off. A billion Chinese people aren't rubbing their hands in glee as they see Corona virus spread around the world.
No, I'm sure it's just down to bad luck. Two pandemics in eighteen years originating in China. I wonder how long they'll keep us waiting for the next one?
daisypond · 09/10/2020 22:45

relations with China are damaged beyond repair for the foreseeable.

Not at all. Relations with China are going to grow stronger. China is world superpower. The U.K. is not. We need China.

MrsTerryPratchett · 09/10/2020 22:49

@NiceGerbil

'CJD affected a handful of people'

A numbers game is it?

In that case pollution and natural disasters need your urgent attention.

Big sugar first.
MrsTerryPratchett · 09/10/2020 22:53

Geopolitics aren't the strong suit on this thread.

China has been making itself indispensable around the world for decades now. You'd be astounded how many projects in the majority world are funded by them. And they don't want a war outside their borders. But I shudder to think what would happen if they did.

We cannot force China to do anything China doesn't want. The UK really has a distorted view of its own importance, particularly post brexit.

Trumpet could fuck shit up with China. I wouldn't were I him.

jasjas1973 · 09/10/2020 22:55

@ANoTail

Thanks China? It's not an engineered virus. A pandemic hasn't been started to piss you off. A billion Chinese people aren't rubbing their hands in glee as they see Corona virus spread around the world.
The kickback against China has already begun i.e. Huawei and 5G, Android not supporting their 'phones... the US has started to onshore manufacturing and that trend will continue and the europeans will follow. China is not allowing any UN/WHO investigation into where the virus originated and what the Chinese did, when & told, to limit infection.
cinammonbuns · 09/10/2020 23:10

China owns and controls most of the developing world in some way. The self importance on uneducated British people never ceases to amaze me.

If we tried to ask China for compensation they would laugh in our faces and rightly so.

  1. I thought we learned that asking for reparations is a bad idea after WW1.
  1. Even though the virus started in China the worldwide effects cannot be blamed solely on China as that was fuelled by incompetence by many politicians.
  1. There is no precedent at all for seeking compensation for countries where pandemics started. I don’t know what international organisation you think would agree that that should happen.

Anyway I will leave you all to your idiotic fantasises about punishing China as it’s clear to see that any reasonable conversation will fly right over your heads.

dollychopss · 09/10/2020 23:11

@ANoTail

Thanks China? It's not an engineered virus. A pandemic hasn't been started to piss you off. A billion Chinese people aren't rubbing their hands in glee as they see Corona virus spread around the world.
I for one feel sorry for the Chinese people the CCP who in turn treat their citizens like shit are to blame ...they lied ..... also all the people that spoke out disappeared !!!!! You can not compare any other virus like this which not only causes death but probably suicides,poverty etc
Girlyracer · 09/10/2020 23:11

A communist world super power? No thanks.

Not aware of any country happy with China at the moment.

Plussizejumpsuit · 09/10/2020 23:12

@MrsTerryPratchett

Geopolitics aren't the strong suit on this thread.

China has been making itself indispensable around the world for decades now. You'd be astounded how many projects in the majority world are funded by them. And they don't want a war outside their borders. But I shudder to think what would happen if they did.

We cannot force China to do anything China doesn't want. The UK really has a distorted view of its own importance, particularly post brexit.

Trumpet could fuck shit up with China. I wouldn't were I him.

Well said. This exactly.
daisypond · 10/10/2020 00:23

@Girlyracer

A communist world super power? No thanks.

Not aware of any country happy with China at the moment.

China is a world superpower. You can like it or not, but the fact stands.
Doliv63 · 10/10/2020 00:36

So going against the other comments I do actually think that China has a lot to answer for ! Not on a personal level but whatever happened in a lab or market In China needs to be investigated and for the rest of the world to be given an explanation !

daisypond · 10/10/2020 01:06

@Doliv63

So going against the other comments I do actually think that China has a lot to answer for ! Not on a personal level but whatever happened in a lab or market In China needs to be investigated and for the rest of the world to be given an explanation !
Who do you think is going to do this investigating?
SheepandCow · 10/10/2020 01:18

If someone told you to jump off a cliff would you do it?

The situation in China was crystal clear by January. Whatever they said and however much they might have tried to downplay it. It's like a child who's denying eating the chocolate whilst having it smeared over it's mouth. They didn't shut down a major city and have people in hazmat suits spraying streets with disinfectant for a bit of a laugh.

We chose to continue unrestricted, unquarantined daily direct flights from China including Wuhan in February and March into the UK. We didn't have to.

OpheliasCrayon · 10/10/2020 08:55

And the UK has handled it well have they? We failed to shut borders at the start. Our test and trace is laughable... We let big events continue in march... I mean a country can't claim compensation of another one , but I think that if we tried to put a case forward that china has dealt with it badly we'd be laughed out the room with our piss poor performance

MummyPop00 · 10/10/2020 08:58

Well, two Coronavirus types within 20 years is a bit dubious isn’t it? Who’s to say there won’t be a third?

IF there was global agreement, I’d love to see tariffs on Chinese tat.

dollychopss · 10/10/2020 09:01

@MummyPop00

Well, two Coronavirus types within 20 years is a bit dubious isn’t it? Who’s to say there won’t be a third?

IF there was global agreement, I’d love to see tariffs on Chinese tat.

1958 too I am sure we will get another one soon Can't believe they have those vile wet markets still open
Tippexy · 10/10/2020 09:01

@Insaneinthemembury

As someone that cares about animal rights and husbandry, I'm pretty angry at the way this started from abject animal cruelty. It's fairly unanimous this came from a Bush meat at a wet market. (Altho which animal specifically up for dispute) Archaic practices that are reservoirs for disease. I think it's ok to be angry about this.
Interesting, I’d have said it’s fairly unanimous this came from an accident at a lab.
daisypond · 10/10/2020 09:06

@MummyPop00

Well, two Coronavirus types within 20 years is a bit dubious isn’t it? Who’s to say there won’t be a third?

IF there was global agreement, I’d love to see tariffs on Chinese tat.

There will never be a global agreement. There won’t be any tariffs on anything, tat or otherwise.
sashagabadon · 10/10/2020 09:08

I think the world has collectively woken up to China. Their wolf warrior tactics and their infrastructure building programme etc. But what can be done I don’t know.

Hopefully there will be a thorough investigation Into how the virus originated, whether via the wet market that is one possible theory. As as a world we really need to try and stop a repeat. Although viruses will always be with us of course

sashagabadon · 10/10/2020 09:11

@OpheliasCrayon

And the UK has handled it well have they? We failed to shut borders at the start. Our test and trace is laughable... We let big events continue in march... I mean a country can't claim compensation of another one , but I think that if we tried to put a case forward that china has dealt with it badly we'd be laughed out the room with our piss poor performance
I am sure the uk will look at all these things but this doesn’t negate the need for the world (not the uk) to look at how this happened and what can be done to prevent it happening again. Every country will review their pandemic preparedness but It is important to look at where it originated from. Not sure why anyone would argue against that Hmm
TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 10/10/2020 09:12

I wonder if the people who want to punish China have been taking the initiative and not buying anything made in China (or anything with components made in China...) since the outbreak began.

OpheliasCrayon · 10/10/2020 09:13

@sashagabadon sure. But I mean you still can't claim compensation from another country anyway! I don't think it's a thing

sashagabadon · 10/10/2020 09:16

@SheepandCow

If someone told you to jump off a cliff would you do it?

The situation in China was crystal clear by January. Whatever they said and however much they might have tried to downplay it. It's like a child who's denying eating the chocolate whilst having it smeared over it's mouth. They didn't shut down a major city and have people in hazmat suits spraying streets with disinfectant for a bit of a laugh.

We chose to continue unrestricted, unquarantined daily direct flights from China including Wuhan in February and March into the UK. We didn't have to.

But the flip side of that is why did China allow those flights to take off on route to the uk and elsewhere in Europe when they knew they had a problem with novel virus and might well be spreading it to Europe. If the uk sent flights to say Argentina full of people that may be carriers for a deadly virus would you blame Argentina for not stopping the flight?
sashagabadon · 10/10/2020 09:17

[quote OpheliasCrayon]@sashagabadon sure. But I mean you still can't claim compensation from another country anyway! I don't think it's a thing[/quote]
That’s not the point! The investigation and prevention if reoccurrence is the point