In the long run, will more people die as a result of lockdown than of covid?

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Saw this comment in another thread and the last bit especially shocked me:

"Hospitals have been told to ignore anyone who needed them unless its covid related since then. GPs arent seeing anyone unless absolutely necessary. I know people having assessments over the phone that are impossible, Drs should assess the whole patient not just a couple of symptoms they cant even see. Its medicine 101.
People are dying at home from lack of care, Doctors have predicted tens of thousands will die in the next year because their life saving treatment was cancelled, they werent diagnosed in time, they were too scared to go to hosital because eveyone was screaming at them not to 'overwhelm the NHS with their problem' while A & E units stood empty.
I know nurses who have sat on their backsides for months, worrying about thier patients who arent allowed back for treatments and checkups.
I know people who have relatives who have illnesses which are now terminal due to lack of care.
There were 10,000 excess deaths due to neglect in their own homes in people suffering from dementia in April, due to lack of carers going in and making sure they were eating, drinking and taking their meds, not dying from lonliness and confusion. How many do you think there will have been by now?"

Between this, the suicide rates rising due to lockdown, elderly in care homes deteriorating due to isolation/lack of social contact and the missed cancers due to delayed cancer check ups, I cannot help but to come to the conclusion that the cure is showing to be worse than the disease. Am I alone in thinking this?

More people will die because of the half arsed lockdown exit plan than from lockdown

Lockdown should have been a sharp pause to enable us to get infrastructure in place to enable us t9 safely exit lockdown and resume large amounts of normal life

So , test with results within 24 hours . 80% of contacts traced within the next 24 hrs and all given supported isolation

That government incompetence is what will cost lives

No. Of course not. On Covid threads you constantly read that people were old or weak and would have died soon anyway.

I'd say the same applies to a cancer diagnosis and to many others. Some survive, some don't, no matter how early the treatment begins.

My cancer treatment continued throughout. As did many other people's.

I heard an expression last week which summed it up for me :

"Enjoy Covid because the future is going to be hell"

@LastGoldenDaysOfSummer

No. Of course not. On Covid threads you constantly read that people were old or weak and would have died soon anyway.

I'd say the same applies to a cancer diagnosis and to many others. Some survive, some don't, no matter how early the treatment begins.

My cancer treatment continued throughout. As did many other people's.

It's not just the lack of treatment, the long term effects of unemployment and poverty will have enormous and long lasting effects on health and life expectancy.

With all due respect @Unsure33, NHS staff only know about their particular specialism. They are not economists, psychologists, oncologists or experts in mental health, child poverty, social policy, domestic violence, education or government finances.

Our COVID policy cannot and should not be dictated by NHS nurses.

Indeed the long term effects will be devastating...and the countries that had least virus control will have worst economic and long term health issues

It's not lockdown , it's virus and virus mismanagement that is the problem

Yes. We will look back on our response to this as a total shambles

Sadly like most things it's a mixed bag I suspect. I lost my darling father a couple of months ago due to cancelled appointments and lack of GP appointments which meant by the time he could be seen it was too late. In reverse my mother has been seen at A&E and it was extremely efficient. My daughter has been seen this week in A&E and has a very speedy follow up booked.

The social isolation of lockdown, plus the message from the media that covid is the only threat worth worrying about, means for our family that my parents in law are shadows of their former selves. Before they were self sufficient and able to help us with childcare etc. Now they are accessing the mental health crisis team. It's a fucking disgrace if you ask me.

Looks like it's a postcode lottery. Heard an upsetting R4 report on maternity services under Covid. Health visitors being redeployed on what turned out to be empty Covid wards while vulnerable mothers and babies weren't seen.

My mother-in-law has dementia and she has people coming in to do stuff.