People anxious about catching CV, are you equally worried about being diagnosed with cancer?

[Marcellemouse]

Or is that not something you really think about?

I've had cancer and I think it's made me more worried about COVID that I would have been. Having faced the very realistic prospect of my disabled child having to grow up without a mother you'd better believe I live a low risk life and do my damnedest to make sure that I've done what I can to minimise the possibility of that happening.

Stop being a dick.

Smoking is addictive. It also isn’t likely to kill you (or your vulnerable relatives) in the next six months as coronavirus could.

I kind of see what you’re saying but your tone just comes off a bit preachy and your examples are a bit vague.

Doing more to prevent one bad thing than another doesn't make you hypocritical. You might just as well say that if you smoke it's hypocritical to eat healthily. Nobody wants to get Covid or cancer. But it's a lot easier to wear a mask when going in shops when you've been told to for a frw months than it is to spend your entire life avoiding every single thing which is a cancer risk (which is basically impossible).

Ffs, my husband has had cancer. It wasn't because of anything he had done, it wasn't related to lifestyle or overall health and there was nothing he could have done to prevent it. He also didn't catch it from someone and he wasn't relying on the rest of the population to protect him.

These false equivalence posts are fucking annoying.

Oh yeah and smoking is addictive.

I’ve lost three stone this year to improve my chances of staying healthy, with both cancer and Covid in mind. Other mitigations are different for each disease but yes, both are important. I don’t want either, thanks.

I was diagnosed with cancer just before lockdown. I’m terrified of catching Covid19 in case it affects my (already delayed) cancer treatment.

@Marcellemouse

I've seen a few people today with their masks pulled down smoking. It's so hypocritical to be trying to prevent spreading and catching CV when you're putting yourself and others at risk by smoking. And others that are at increased risk of cancer and other life threatening diseases (diabetes, high blood pressure etc), because of their life choices doing absolutely nothing to mitigate the chances of that, but petrified of dying from CV and leaving their dc.

No it’s not.

Smoking is only permitted outside. It’s an activity that has “pesky” rules attached to it, to keep people safe.

Seriously the daft equivalencies don’t even stand up.

There are rules to reduce car accidents, lots of them
There are rules to reduce passive smoking, excessive drinking and gambling.
There are rules for lots of things to improve public health.

There are also societal norms that people voluntarily practise to help improve public health.

The only difference between how these develop is that usually it is over time. With Covid it has been very rapid because it’s a novel virus, capable of reeking havoc in a way that the vast majority of people agree needs to be stopped.

Image if all the time and money that has been put into CV had been put into finding a cure for cancer.

Yes actually.

My mother and husband both died of cancer within the last three years. Given the number you just stated a fair amount of people reading this have already faced down cancer. And a lot of them will be in the more vulnerable category because of that.

My job, my first and primary job, is staying alive for my two kids because I'm the only parent they've got. No cancer. No covid-19. None of the diabetes my gestational diabetes makes me vulnerable to either. I don't get to die just now.

Also if you state this opinion in RL to people whose medical and family history you don't know intimately I really hope you're prepared for the reaction you're going to get.

@Marcellemouse

I've seen a few people today with their masks pulled down smoking. It's so hypocritical to be trying to prevent spreading and catching CV when you're putting yourself and others at risk by smoking. And others that are at increased risk of cancer and other life threatening diseases (diabetes, high blood pressure etc), because of their life choices doing absolutely nothing to mitigate the chances of that, but petrified of dying from CV and leaving their dc.

Well they have to wear masks in shops etc. so maybe they were only wearing the mask to comply and they don't care about cancer or covid.

But cancer is different, it's a slower thing.

I'm sure they wear seatbelts too.

Pretty much just as worried, now that I think about it. I have a cancer phobia and always immediately worry any new skin thing or lump or pain is cancer. So far, it hasn't been but doesn't stop me worrying each time. Although cancer at least can't be caught from others, so I can see why people would be more concerned about Covid right now.

Ehm yes, I worry about both

I eat healthily and do exercise and stay fit to try and look after my general health. I use sunscreen. Cancer is on my mind.

But I can’t pass cancer on to other people.

I am worried about Covid, and avoid restaurants and don’t shop “for fun” to minimise risk. Am not worried about getting it as such, it’ll be like a bad cold or flu I imagine, but I’d worry about DH with Asthma, PIL with bronchitis and my elderly parents yes

Nice for you that you don’t have to worry about anyone OP

I am more worried about cancer, I have an 80% chance of developing breast cancer and 45 % chance of developing ovarian cancer.

G as F

Funnily I can't catch cancer from someone coughing on me and touching my shopping, so I don't expect to catch it when I leave my house, no.

Cancer is something you have less control over. I keep myself at healthy as possible and do all my checks. What else do you expect?

@Marcellemouse

Image if all the time and money that has been put into CV had been put into finding a cure for cancer.

More has already gone into cancer over the years surely?

And like it or not, cancer just is not as big a threat to the whole social system this year. It is a fairly stable manageable threat.

And letting covid run through the population and hospitals will kill a lot of cancer patients before their treatment can be completed.

This whole thread is a bit pointless, as cancer is cancer and covid is covid.

Goady and lacking in any critical thinking.

As usual.

Don’t be daft, covid deaths and illnesses are the only important ones at the moment. Don’t you know there’s a pandemic on?

I was diagnosed with cancer last year, it was treatable but I have to go for 3 monthly follow ups.
It was the most terrifying thing I’ve ever been through and it’s greatly damaged my mental health.
I am still very concerned about catching Covid, if I caught it at the wrong time it could stop me being diagnosed quickly, or make treatment delayed on an aggressive type of cancer.
I am also concerned about catching it because I don’t want to unknowingly pass it onto other vulnerable people.

As someone who has had cancer twice, and consider myself extremely lucky to still be here, I cannot tell you how irritated I am with people like you, OP, using cancer to justify your attitude towards how Covd19 is being handled.

My continuing risk of dying from cancer is many, many times greater than my risk from dying from Covid19. However, I’m astute enough to recognise that mismanaging Covid19 is a much greater risk to my children’s future well being than a relatively short period of not living life to the full.

I really do feel for those whose livelihoods are at risk, those who have mental health issues and, of course, those who need cancer diagnosis or treatment but, if we let Covid run riot, it does not make things better, it makes things much, much worse.

And anyone who thinks that treatment for cancer is likely to be more available if we let Covid do it’s thing has no idea whatsoever about what that treatment entails.

Just stop it - you make yourself look idiotic!

I get what you’re saying OP, it’s about risk.
Statistically we are far, far more likely to develop cancer than catch Covid.
I’d like to know how many have died of cancer during this pandemic as a result of not being able to access the correct care.

I've had cancer, thanks. Due to my underlying health conditions, Covid is a hell of a lot more likely to kill me than the cancer I had.

@Marcellemouse

Image if all the time and money that has been put into CV had been put into finding a cure for cancer.

And this very statement shows your ignorance about anything medical.

There are a lot of types of cancer. The amount of funding poured into finding a cure for each one is highly variable. We are doing amazingly on some cancers (breast, testicular, some of the blood cancers) right now and terribly on some of the others. You are unlikely to see a vast amount of money poured into some rarer cancers that are pretty much a death sentence unless someone like Bill Gates gets them because even though everyone who gets them dies they're still literal one in a million cancers. Others we chuck a lot of funding at because a lot of people get them and if a tiny percentage of a lot of people die that's still a lot of people.

Much like we treat a highly virulent infectious disease in fact.