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those who post saying they hope for the worst for trump....

97 replies

Whatadoa · 03/10/2020 10:25

I can’t believe people would say or post such a thing.

I dislike the man and most, of not all of his policies.

But to hope for the worst when he’s taken to hospital/unwell?

Do people think that shows them as decent and kind...to my mind it puts those people in the same category as him - cruel, heartless and unnecessarily unkind. Am I on my own with this?!

For what it’s worth I’m not a pushover and don’t mind the odd sarcastic comment or dark humour but wishing the worst on him and being so openly proud to do so, I find rather shocking and lacking in intellect and decency.

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JesusInTheCabbageVan · 03/10/2020 13:48

@notevenat20

To me, this is no different to wishing ill on a sexual predator,

As someone who has had plenty of experience of a sexual predator, I wanted them to go jail for a few years, not die of a terrible disease.

That's pretty much my point. As I said:

To add to my last post - if death were the only way of stopping him, then yes, of course I wish him dead.

If I could choose though, I would prefer for him to survive, and lose, and see the world celebrate, and face justice for everything he's done, and finally watch as his successor(s) clean up the mess he's made and become far more respected and successful than he could ever be. Then he can die. grin

RaisinGhost · 03/10/2020 13:48

Exactly dreading, is the next thread going to be

Hitler wasn't that bad aibu
OK so he had some different political views, but so what? Why is everyone always making jokes about him and saying he was bad, he was human too.

Ellapaella · 03/10/2020 13:48

I don't wish the man dead but I have absolutely no personal concern for his wellbeing whatsoever. I'm sure that his family would miss him and be very sad if he died but why would the rest of the world care? He hasn't done anything to prove himself a particularly worthy human being since he's been in office. He shows very little compassion for others so he reaps what he sows.

IloveJKRowling · 03/10/2020 13:49

I think that there would be fewer avoidable deaths in the US if Trump were not president. So I don't wish ill on him but I do wish that he'd somehow end up removed from a position where he can harm so many others.

I'd be surprised if he dies from this though - he's having antibody treatment which would not be available to almost any other American (unless super rich). Because of his wealth and power he's getting medical care most people can only dream of.

That's the scandal here, not that people are wishing ill on a narcissistic sociopath.

caringcarer · 03/10/2020 13:51

To wish another person would die is just awful and shows how twisted some people are. I don't agree with some political ideology but that would be wishing they would change their policy, not wishing them dead.

SinisterBumFacedCat · 03/10/2020 13:51

I feel sorry for the 1 million who have lost their lives. For the hundreds of thousands suffering with COVID 19, the families, those with long COVID, people who have lost their jobs and will loose their homes, as I’m sure everyone does. I was worried when Boris was clearly ill and it was looking bad for him and relieved when he pulled through, but I would never vote for him.

This guy though, Nah sorry, he is a bully, to his country and his family. He has been given everything in his life, has had a miraculously easy ride and has pissed all over everyone else along the way. He has not a shred of empathy. I don’t especially want him to suffer, however maybe this a little bit of karma catching up with him.

What will probably happen is he will saunter through it relatively unscathed, and be full of himself afterwards. He will say it was no big deal and that people who are affected by Covid worse than him are wimps. And everyone will just lap it up.

As for Melania, meh, those tapes....

jessstan1 · 03/10/2020 13:52

I agree with you 100% but I don't think people really mean it.

notevenat20 · 03/10/2020 13:52

He is against women's rights, he is against poor people, foreign people and the actual planet we live on. He's a mysoginist, a serial adulterer, a cheat and a swindler.

You could say that about a lot of older men. I really don't think they are all similar to Hitler.

notevenat20 · 03/10/2020 13:55

Well maybe 90% of those things. Most older men are not swindlers.

SquishySquirmy · 03/10/2020 13:56

I would not wish harm on anyone.

Also, what will the crazy, conspiracy theory fulelled militia groups do if he suddenly dies?

There are some very angry groups of men who believe that sinister, big state forces are plotting against Trump. They are already heavily armed, and are currently preparing for "something". People who amass vast amounts of weaponry and spend their weekends training for war WANT to use these weapons and training. They are itching for their conspiracy theories to be "proved right".

I don't want Trump to die right before an election at one of the most febrile times of the last few decades.

KnightsofColumbusThatHurt · 03/10/2020 13:58

@Ellapaella

I don't wish the man dead but I have absolutely no personal concern for his wellbeing whatsoever. I'm sure that his family would miss him and be very sad if he died but why would the rest of the world care? He hasn't done anything to prove himself a particularly worthy human being since he's been in office. He shows very little compassion for others so he reaps what he sows.
Yes, this is how I feel. I wouldn't care if he died, same as he hasn't cared about all of the people who have suffered because of his actions.

I don't actively wish him dead, I don't hope he dies but if he did I wouldn't feel anything either way really, I certainly wouldn't feel sad that he was gone.

He is an utter piece of racist, misogynist, xenophobic, disablist, selfish, attention seeking shit who doesn't appear to ever have done a single thing for anyone else's benefit other than his own. Why would I be bothered whether or not he survives Covid?

JesusInTheCabbageVan · 03/10/2020 14:04

@FourPlasticRings

Back to bed, Donald

I know you're being flippant, but in all seriousness, 2020 really isn't the worst year to ever happen. COVID is no black death. We're very lucky to live in the time we do, in the area of the world we do, and we take it for granted. And then moan constantly whenever we encounter hardship.

So if Trump is lucky and all these deaths are just a blip, why does it bother you if people wish him ill or not? Confused
JesusInTheCabbageVan · 03/10/2020 14:05

I mean, if he does die, it'll just be another blip. What's so bad about a little blip?

AuntieMarys · 03/10/2020 14:10

I certainly won't shed a tear if he dies. Nor would I for several other people.

yeOldeTrout · 03/10/2020 14:15

I am baffled by those who feel horrified. Did you not know that many people in the world have distasteful opinions? You felt the same when Trump supporters changed "Lock her up!" - right? Did you post a lot about that too back in 2016?

A few of the high profile people I follow on Twitter get a lot of abuse in their comments. These are mere BBC journalists or professional atheletes. Have you not been aware how common that kind of nasty abuse is? Do you go on Twitter and protest about it constantly?

Cacacoisfarraige · 03/10/2020 14:19

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AgeLikeWine · 03/10/2020 14:23

I admit that my first thought when I heard that Trump had tested positive was ‘I hope he dies, the world would be a better place without that man’, but I have changed my mind on reflection.

I now hope he recovers, not because my opinion of Trump has changed, but because I want to see him defeated. I want to see him and everything he stands for crushed by a landslide victory by Joe Biden on 3rd of November. Public rejection and humiliation is the worst thing that can happen to a narcissist, and it is what Trump deserves.

FourPlasticRings · 03/10/2020 14:26

@JesusInTheCabbageVan

I mean, if he does die, it'll just be another blip. What's so bad about a little blip?
I'm not wishing for it though. In the grand scheme of things no, it won't matter if he does die- we all will eventually, after all- but actively wishing for someone else's misfortune isn't really on, in my book.
IloveJKRowling · 03/10/2020 14:30

What will probably happen is he will saunter through it relatively unscathed, and be full of himself afterwards. He will say it was no big deal and that people who are affected by Covid worse than him are wimps. And everyone will just lap it up.

This would be the absolute worst outcome because it'll enable him to push through policies that endanger other people. He does not care if other people die at all. It'll probably happen due to the excellent and pre-emptive medical treatment he's getting (which most people, both here and in the US won't get).

I wonder how much lower the death toll would be if everyone who got sick with covid-19 got Trump-level healthcare. I think it would certainly be much, much, many thousands lower.

I don't want him to die but I hope he does get quite ill so he can't use a mild illness as an excuse to do things that will kill other people.

Bluegrass · 03/10/2020 14:37

I want him to face justice for the credible accusations of rape and sexual abuse (including minors) as well as the countless other accusations of financial crimes over his long career. Unfortunately I don’t think he ever will but the only regret I would have if he died is that the chance for that to happen would have been lost entirely.

As a general point though, drawing an equivalency between a man like that and someone who merely wishes him ill is utterly ridiculous - “there were very bad people on both sides” ring any bells, fucks sake!

JesusInTheCabbageVan · 03/10/2020 14:37

@FourPlasticRings mm, I see it as more actively wishing for the good fortune of hundreds of thousands of others.

Shakirasma · 03/10/2020 14:41

I dont actually wish him, or any other person dead. But I can certainly see the benefit to other peoples lives both in and outside of the USA if he wasn't president anymore, one way or another.

bumblingbovine49 · 03/10/2020 14:43

@IloveJKRowling

I think that there would be fewer avoidable deaths in the US if Trump were not president. So I don't wish ill on him but I do wish that he'd somehow end up removed from a position where he can harm so many others.

I'd be surprised if he dies from this though - he's having antibody treatment which would not be available to almost any other American (unless super rich). Because of his wealth and power he's getting medical care most people can only dream of.

That's the scandal here, not that people are wishing ill on a narcissistic sociopath.

*I'd be surprised if he dies from this though - he's having antibody treatment which would not be available to almost any other American (unless super rich). Because of his wealth and power he's getting medical care most people can only dream of.

That's the scandal here, not that people are wishing ill on a narcissistic sociopath*

Even though I don't wish him dead , I agree with this 100%.

FourPlasticRings · 03/10/2020 15:17

[quote JesusInTheCabbageVan]@FourPlasticRings mm, I see it as more actively wishing for the good fortune of hundreds of thousands of others.[/quote]
But would Pence be any better?

www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/mike-pence-beliefs-about-abortion-gay-marriage-women-reporters-2017-6%3famp

OpenlyGayExOlympicFencer · 03/10/2020 15:18

@Whatadoa

nquartz that’s my point exactly. Commenting such nasty things is rather ironic as it puts the poster closely associated with trump’s own way of working.

We are not a bunch of 7 year olds (at least I hope not).

No it doesn't. That's a ludicrous thing to say. Wishing something when you have no power to influence the outcome bears no resemblance whatsoever to actual evildoing. FWIW, I don't want him to be seriously ill or die, because of the potential for further instability.