770 students at Northumbria test positive.

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770 students test positive at Northumbria

https://www.ladbible.com/news/uk-outbreak-at-uk-university-sees-770-students-test-positive-for-covid-19-20201002?c=1601655033701%3Fsource%3Dfacebook&fbclid=IwAR2zpVljTZshbUGlHRo4MKwmTHiJtZxUoCjj_MUX3n2FobXOJLbw-gl3G-Y

@Jrobhatch29 I feel school and uni’s are being used as scapegoats now for the raise in numbers but I think it’s spreading indoors wherever you are. Care homes in our area have regular testing and I’ve been surprised how many working in them have tested positive with no symptoms.

The reason they are finding so many amongst the students though is they are testing everyone in a household (if they can)- they aren't waiting for cough. They were, but they've very quickly realised that's allowing it to spread.

It's not just in student halls, there's a factory in Cornwall where they tested 500 workers, 170 were positive and the vast majority were not symptomatic.

If we wait for coughs, it's still going to spread exponentially in these enclosed groups, which may not actually be a bad thing if most are asymptomatic, it's the fact they will take it outside the enclosed group that's problematic I guess. I'd be interested to know how many of the people in the households of the 170 factory workers also had it.

@Poppingnostopping

The reason they are finding so many amongst the students though is they are testing everyone in a household (if they can)- they aren't waiting for cough. They were, but they've very quickly realised that's allowing it to spread.

It's not just in student halls, there's a factory in Cornwall where they tested 500 workers, 170 were positive and the vast majority were not symptomatic.

If we wait for coughs, it's still going to spread exponentially in these enclosed groups, which may not actually be a bad thing if most are asymptomatic, it's the fact they will take it outside the enclosed group that's problematic I guess. I'd be interested to know how many of the people in the households of the 170 factory workers also had it.

I agree that would be useful info

This just proves that this virus isn’t as bad as we’re being led to believe. So many asymptomatic people. I can’t believe some people on here are selfish enough to think this means we should shut schools and universities. I despair, I really do.

Send all the students back home for god's sake. Remote learning is the only way now for them otherwise this will be a continuing theme for god knows how long

Send them home, reimburse them, Do the decent thing for once.

DD's friend went to Northumbria (I think it was there and not Newcastle University anyway) at the weekend. He has been there just under a week, his flat mates all between 6-10 days) and all of his flatmates have tested positive. He hasn't yet. None are ill with it. One had one symptom briefly a few days ago.

Can't be blamed on partying in their flat as they'd not been there long enough. One must have brought it with them.

Send them home, reimburse them, Do the decent thing for once I think first year students who are in halls who are in quarantine and want to return home after that two weeks should be allowed to do so and refunded the hall fees.

Other than that, shut down the lives of 18-22 year olds for two or more years, absolutely nope. They don't want to sit in their parents houses watching life happening to someone else for another year or two.

It also shows why the vaccine won't be a solution for this age group. They won't receive it first, or even second, because they are not at huge risk of severe outcomes or death. We can't even roll out a flu vaccine quickly this autumn to over 50's, it's already not happening fast enough. The current statements about the covid vaccine are that it might make the illness milder rather than prevent it- what use will that be to young people who already mostly get an asymptomatic or a mild version?

I think carrying on some semblance of normal life for this age group is extremely important. Catastrophising and placing a whole cohort back in their parent's homes, unless individually they are very stressed, I don't think that's justified at the moment.

Universities will absolutely not be wanting to offer testing now.

@MaddieElla

"Symptoms to notification in 24 hours fast".

Cough Tuesday morning, test Tuesday afternoon, result 9am Wednesday morning.

That is the case in my area (Lincolnshire). Mumsnet only accepts your example of 5 days from symptoms to notification though.

I took from Monday morning trying for a test, getting a home test Wednesday to finally getting the All Clear on the Saturday. It's highly area dependent.

just proves that this virus isn’t as bad as we’re being led to believe. So many asymptomatic people. I can’t believe some people on here are selfish enough to think this means we should shut schools and universities. I despair, I really do

Really unfair of you.
I posted below, yes the student was asymptomatic but one of the HT's is very seriously poorly as is one of the staff members in the other school.

Studies have shown up to 80% have no symptoms...

www.healthline.com/health-news/50-percent-of-people-with-covid19-not-aware-have-virus

@lacylass

just proves that this virus isn’t as bad as we’re being led to believe. So many asymptomatic people. I can’t believe some people on here are selfish enough to think this means we should shut schools and universities. I despair, I really do

Really unfair of you.
I posted below, yes the student was asymptomatic but one of the HT's is very seriously poorly as is one of the staff members in the other school.

I’m sick of kids and young people being thrown under the bus.
I know all you crazies on the coronavirus forum want the world to shut down so you can stay at home and crochet rainbows, but life has to go on and it’s not fair to sacrifice the majority to protect the minority. I won’t be looking at this thread again so don’t all waste your energy ranting at me!

It me 'staying at home and crocheting rainbows'...advising school to keep them open....

*Not

I know some universities are planning to test all students every week, which is going to send the recorded number of infections through the roof. I live near one of them, and am somewhat selfishly worried that we'll be living under increased restrictions soon.

DD has just returned to school - many of her class were off during the first couple of weeks as a nasty cold did the rounds, despite attempts to improve hygiene - if Coronovirus gets in, it'll rip through the school; I wonder what the results would be from weekly testing of school children (both primary and secondary).

and i am fed up with the nay sayers and blamers
grr

Full time job, supporting leaders to carry out risk assessments, providing health and well-being advice to HT's and teachers, evaluating catch up for children and directing to funding to support learning, creating assessment documents to identify and support children to progress rapidly...is that enough...in fact I worked all of last weekend and the weekend before that too...'crocheting rainbows' ...so disrespectful.

Well given students are in halls and all getting it isn’t this a good thing? Soon
They will all be immune and we start to get fewer infections. The young are showing now they aren’t seriously affected - despite the naysayers.

I can't understand why students were allowed to travel. Most lectures are online anyway.

It’s all very well to say Universities should refund accommodation fees but if they had to do that until the end of this pandemic it could send them to the wall. It’s roughly half their income, they couldn’t really rent to anyone else and this could easily last another couple of years.

I wonder how many false positives there were

The fact that so many have it or have had it but basically felt fine is reassuring. It’s not as bad as the media would have us believe perhaps

@FourTeaFallOut

Bollocks, wrong thread. I'm definitely going to stop posting now. Sorry.

Oh don't, you're giving me a good laugh!!

@GCAcademic

They don’t mass test at the majority of universities. Only 12 universities have a testing service, and in most cases it’s just for those who have symptoms.

That's interesting - where is the figure of 12 from? I work at one that is mass testing (and not just symptomatic) and had sort of just assumed that this was what most were doing.

You can test positive for up to 12 months after you have Covid.

how can they possibly know this?

@randomer

Send all the students back home for god's sake. Remote learning is the only way now for them otherwise this will be a continuing theme for god knows how long

Send them home, reimburse them, Do the decent thing for once.

I have to agree. Just found out an hour ago that a student in my son's flat has tested positive. Now they're all locked down and isolating for 2 weeks. They hadn't even been there a week - moved in last weekend.

What is more annoying is that it's a campus/college uni and all the on-site (Uni owned/controlled) college bars, cafes and restaurants have been open and no one has been trying to enforce the social distancing/mask rules. The Uni should be ashamed of itself for that. My son went out to his college common room/bar/cafe on Sunday, and said it was absolutely heaving, no masks, no social distancing, literally hundreds of people crowded in. He just took one look and walked out again.

Unis need to start taking it seriously. Academic staff are hiding at home doing online lectures so they're all right Jack. But the students are lambs to the slaughter on the campuses/in the colleges which is an utter disgrace when they're on uni premises.