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It feels like people on MN are willing schools to close

606 replies

Marcellemouse · 29/09/2020 13:57

Lots of threads being really negative about schools reopening. These have been largely started by teachers, the latest one being about a gagging order on the BBC. My 2 and every other DC I know are thriving on schools opening again. DS actually stands a chance of doing well and getting back on track with GCSES. DC are happy and animated again. Their teachers have been fantastic, I'm massively impressed. Friends of mine who are secondary teachers are positive and happy to be back teaching in school instead of home learning. I just get a different vibe in RL than on MN about schools. What's the reality?

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PolarBearStrength · 29/09/2020 22:25

I honestly just think a lot of people on MN just thrive on drama. Schools closing again just feeds into their ‘omg pandemic!!!’ stance.

tornadoalley · 29/09/2020 22:26

We've been shielding a child for months, and he's back at school, where I hope he stays

Marcellemouse · 29/09/2020 22:26

@EugenesAxe thank you I really appreciate everything you and your colleague are doing, as do most parents and DC (despite what some posters on here think).

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Jourdain11 · 29/09/2020 22:31

@PolarBearStrength

I honestly just think a lot of people on MN just thrive on drama. Schools closing again just feeds into their ‘omg pandemic!!!’ stance.
Omg, WORLDWIDE pandemic
noblegiraffe · 29/09/2020 22:36

Some of the aggressive posters on here, some of whom claim to be teachers, have done a huge disservice to teaching profession

Good thing I don’t judge all parents by the posts of some on here.

pooiepooie25 · 29/09/2020 22:44

@herecomesthsun

Why I think teachers are great

This was an attitude largely instilled by my Welsh mum. Back in the Welsh villages where she grew up, people had the highest respect for learning and, also, for teachers. Being a teacher was seen as a fine calling, on a par with being a doctor and the village teachers had a central place in local society.

Being a teacher takes years of study and commitment. It is far more than just the study for your first degree, there is also the leadership and presence that means you can command a room of 30 lively young people and keep their attention.

And there is the pastoral side, forming relationship with the children in your class, caring about them, getting to know them.

I was always convinced I would make a lousy teacher, I never thought I would be very good at keeping a whole room of kids on track. But I'm very glad these other people can and want to do it and that they are there for my kids.

I quite often send the children with little presents at the end of term, Christmas and Easter and so on. Nothing very expensive, sometimes something made by the child, the point is not the cost, but it is saying thank you, for the effort and the care and the nights spent burning the midnight oil, on occasion to get things right.

I think it is hugely important to show appreciation for people who are carrying out a vocation, not actually for a huge salary (compared with the aforesaid doctors and other professionals) but to show that there is that respect and gratitude there.

That is why I think the whole ethos of this thread, which appears to have been set up to attack teachers at a time of national crisis, is well, very unfortunate (to put it very politely).

So, thank you teachers.

Thank you . It makes a difference to hear that.
Pomegranatepompom · 29/09/2020 22:45

Oh don’t worry noble,I don’t judge the teachers at my DCs school by the posters on here.
I did think you’d comment in a negative way though.

noblegiraffe · 29/09/2020 22:49

Yes, pom I knew it was a dig at me Hmm

Elsa8 · 29/09/2020 22:51

As a parent, it’s wonderful that my small DD could start school and is thriving.

As a teacher I’m loving seeing the kids and teaching again, but don’t feel astoundingly safe in the classroom. I don’t think schools should be shut, but I do think secondaries should be on a 50% timetable with some blended learning. With the best will in the world the bubbles are huge and the kids can’t socially distance.

ineedaholidaynow · 29/09/2020 22:52

The funny thing will be that the parents praising their DC's teachers may indeed be actually praising the teachers who they are slagging off on here, because I bet every teacher on here who has raised concerns about schools will have not let their concerns show in RL in front of their students and parents. How ironic would that be.

Pomegranatepompom · 29/09/2020 22:56

It wasn’t a dig at you but I do feel that you respond to my posts negatively and in an unnecessary mannner.

AutumnleavesturntoGold · 29/09/2020 22:57

I'm thriving on school being re opened. My dc need to plug back into social norms, meeting friends, being in a classroom, running around! Stimulation.

But, it's not safe.
As we head into winter there is no back up to testing. Case's are soaring...

I also know from my own experience, students do. Not. Understand. This virus. They don't get sd.
They, we and everyone are lambs to the slaughter.

noblegiraffe · 29/09/2020 23:00

@Pomegranatepompom

It wasn’t a dig at you but I do feel that you respond to my posts negatively and in an unnecessary mannner.
Uhuh. Not a dig at me but now you're going to make that complaint against me anyway. The one that wasn't about me at all.

God why won't people just own things. So passive aggressive.

EugenesAxe · 29/09/2020 23:01

@Marcellemouse thanks 😊 I love it! Little bits of making a difference every day is great for the soul. I am lucky to work in a school that did lots in lockdown and ran a skeleton school - many of the people working in school found it one of the best experiences of their career, but everyone worked either in house or supporting the online community.

We still got bashed by some parents though! A bit of an ‘in a glass, darkly’ situation... not many people saw the whole picture and were able to be objective about what everyone was doing. Our Head was amazing throughout and very proud of us, and that was enough for everyone.

manicinsomniac · 29/09/2020 23:03

I don't think many teachers want schools shut but, for those who do, I don't see why they shouldn't feel like that. For some, it's either a feeling or a reality of 'in school risking serious illness' or 'at home safe'. I can understand why those people would prefer schools to be closed. Obviously they shouldn't say so in a professional capacity but I bet they don't. To express those fears and preferences to friends and family or on an anonymous forum - why not?

Personally, I feel like I've come back to life since term started. I'm a single mum and have had almost no adult contact for 6 months. Teaching online had me in tears most days and I was very unstable. Now I feel like I've got purpose and energy back and I can't wait to get to school in the mornings. But is it 'safe'? Absolutely not!! Almost zero social distancing, children actively avoiding the hand sanitisers and aiming to beat the one way system whenever they can, rules that are almost impossible to stick to, bubbles crossing all over the place, loads of physical contact between the children and some between children and staff. The only reason we don't have Covid in school yet is because nobody has brought it in. As soon as that happens (and I imagine it's bound to at some point) it will spread. I don't see how it can't.

If it's ok for me to say I want schools to be open because it makes me happier and healthier even though I know it is creating risk for many vulnerable people then surely it's ok for a person to say they'd rather teach online because it keeps them happier and healthier even though they know it is creating problems for many. We all naturally prefer what suits our personal circumstances don't we? That doesn't mean we will act on them if the requirements of our jobs state otherwise though. Which means there probably are frightened, unhappy teachers who'd rather be at home but are still in school pretending to be ok with it because that's their job and they are professional.

Pomegranatepompom · 29/09/2020 23:04

Noble - I can’t post anything without it feeling like you seek it out. You have on several threads now.
Anyway I don’t wish to derail this thread.

ineedaholidaynow · 29/09/2020 23:11

@Pomegranatepompom the thing is when you have had at least 6 months of numerous threads bashing teachers, it can get very wearing (I'm not a teacher by the way, but I am involved in education and have huge sympathies towards the education profession).

There have been threads complaining about too much work being sent home, too little work. Why weren't all classes being allowed back. Parents giving up on the work being sent home. Parents complaining that their child didn't have 'live' lessons, parents complaining that expecting their child to sit at a screen for a 'whole' school day was too much. Parents complaining about teachers phoning them at home, still complaining when told it was a welfare check at the same time as shouting 'we must think of the children'! Parents complaining that the teacher hasn't phoned them! Parents complaining the classrooms are too cold. Parents complaining about what bags, water bottles etc their child can/cannot take in. Parents complaining that their child has been sent home because their bubble has burst, parents complaining that their child hasn't been sent home even though there is a child in the year group that has tested positive. And so it goes on.

noblegiraffe · 29/09/2020 23:13

pom, I respond to lots of posters on school threads. Seek you out? Good grief.

noblegiraffe · 29/09/2020 23:17

@ineedaholidaynow

The funny thing will be that the parents praising their DC's teachers may indeed be actually praising the teachers who they are slagging off on here, because I bet every teacher on here who has raised concerns about schools will have not let their concerns show in RL in front of their students and parents. How ironic would that be.
My school does fit the description of the 'fab schools with cheery teachers'. We have a one-way system and haven't had a case yet. Obviously down to my excellent positivity and nothing to do with luck.

I don't know if some parents understand what 'projecting a professional image' is.

manicinsomniac · 29/09/2020 23:20

There have been threads complaining about too much work being sent home, too little work. Why weren't all classes being allowed back. Parents giving up on the work being sent home. Parents complaining that their child didn't have 'live' lessons, parents complaining that expecting their child to sit at a screen for a 'whole' school day was too much. Parents complaining about teachers phoning them at home, still complaining when told it was a welfare check at the same time as shouting 'we must think of the children'! Parents complaining that the teacher hasn't phoned them! Parents complaining the classrooms are too cold. Parents complaining about what bags, water bottles etc their child can/cannot take in. Parents complaining that their child has been sent home because their bubble has burst, parents complaining that their child hasn't been sent home even though there is a child in the year group that has tested positive. And so it goes on

Grin Oh yes! So very, very true. I lurk on both Us4Them and BRTUS and, although I know they're the two extremes, it really does bring it home to you that whatever you implement to please the 50% is going to upset the other 50%.

Pomegranatepompom · 29/09/2020 23:20

Noble, you have picked apart several of my posts when actually I was being positive about schools, perhaps you have forgotten. My point about aggressive posting was not directed at you, their are several threads which have been unkind, not just by teachers.
I’m sorry you’re all weary, I am too tbh.
I’d prefer not to prolong this. It’s just exhausting abs unhelpful.

Pomegranatepompom · 29/09/2020 23:21

*there (before I get a spelling comment).

doubleshotespresso · 29/09/2020 23:24

I don't think schools should close, but I do think parents ought to have the choice to keep children at home as it's clear that the risks within schools is increasingly high.
I applaud all teachers who have selflessly supported schools, each other, their classes and given up so much personal time, my issue is not with them, but the general negligence of this shitshow of a government.

noblegiraffe · 29/09/2020 23:26

Other posters read your 'positive' post exactly the same way I did, pom

For someone who doesn't want to prolong this, you are still getting the complaints in. You could stop at any time.

Pansypath · 29/09/2020 23:27

I agree. Some people seem to be actively enjoying the pandemic and the challenges it brings. In our school those quite a few of these decided to home school rather than go back to school I can't think of anything worse.