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It feels like people on MN are willing schools to close

606 replies

Marcellemouse · 29/09/2020 13:57

Lots of threads being really negative about schools reopening. These have been largely started by teachers, the latest one being about a gagging order on the BBC. My 2 and every other DC I know are thriving on schools opening again. DS actually stands a chance of doing well and getting back on track with GCSES. DC are happy and animated again. Their teachers have been fantastic, I'm massively impressed. Friends of mine who are secondary teachers are positive and happy to be back teaching in school instead of home learning. I just get a different vibe in RL than on MN about schools. What's the reality?

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herecomesthsun · 29/09/2020 21:37

@noblegiraffe

Is this Us4spouting-crap again do you think?

I like my Russian spy theory, I have to admit.

Na Zdorovie, teachers (I have just had 1 and a 1/2 glasses of wine and watched Bake Off, I'm feeling very mellow)

Please don't be put off by this arrant rubbish, you're all doing a grand job that are teaching my kids, and we need you.

noblegiraffe · 29/09/2020 21:38

Oh right so anyone whose DC is back at school and it's going ok must be an Usforthem person.

My DC are back at school and it’s going ok so far.

Clearly we are not in Birmingham.

mumsneedwine · 29/09/2020 21:38

@rookiemere and that's great. And is every school's plan. But don't be deceived as behind all that positivity are staff who are shattered and falling ill. I've never known teachers be so demoralised in Sept.

echt · 29/09/2020 21:38

Nauseating thread, and typifies the new approach to teacher-bashing.

The faux-praise for schools while criticising teachers on no evidence whatsoever.

SmileEachDay · 29/09/2020 21:38

Oh right so anyone whose DC is back at school and it's going ok must be an Usforthem person

Nope - it it’s possible you might not be aware of how much additional work it’s taking to make this happen.

noblegiraffe · 29/09/2020 21:42

Is this Us4spouting-crap again do you think?

U4T have been going mad on threads recently because they are getting antsy at people getting antsy at the rising figures. They’re particularly worried that masks might be brought in. They’re also pissed off that kids who have tested positive are causing other kids to be sent home and would rather everyone just stayed in school.

Don’t know if this is one of theirs but wouldn’t be surprised at any attempts to make school closures a whiny teacher issue instead of a global pandemic issue,

echt · 29/09/2020 21:42

Oh right so anyone whose DC is back at school and it's going ok must be an Usforthem person

No-one has said that. Literally.

noblegiraffe · 29/09/2020 21:47

Have you left Us4Them btw, rookie, or are you still a member?

notevenat20 · 29/09/2020 21:49

Why do you hate teachers so much? Every single thread you start or post on - you slate teachers. You just sound ridiculous and unpleasant.

I don't hate anyone. I have, like many women, suffered terribly from a school that did almost nothing support or teach children during lockdown. It is then hard to hear that all schools and teachers are super hard working and brilliant. The teachers at DCs school were just at home on full pay looking after their families.

I also have a friend who is a teacher who worked very hard. So I do know that the picture is very mixed.

noblegiraffe · 29/09/2020 21:51

I also have a friend who is a teacher who worked very hard

So what does she think of your assertion that teachers sat at home on full pay looking after their kids doing fuck all?

Odd that you would assert it knowing it’s a gross generalisation.

herecomesthsun · 29/09/2020 21:52

Why I think teachers are great

This was an attitude largely instilled by my Welsh mum. Back in the Welsh villages where she grew up, people had the highest respect for learning and, also, for teachers. Being a teacher was seen as a fine calling, on a par with being a doctor and the village teachers had a central place in local society.

Being a teacher takes years of study and commitment. It is far more than just the study for your first degree, there is also the leadership and presence that means you can command a room of 30 lively young people and keep their attention.

And there is the pastoral side, forming relationship with the children in your class, caring about them, getting to know them.

I was always convinced I would make a lousy teacher, I never thought I would be very good at keeping a whole room of kids on track. But I'm very glad these other people can and want to do it and that they are there for my kids.

I quite often send the children with little presents at the end of term, Christmas and Easter and so on. Nothing very expensive, sometimes something made by the child, the point is not the cost, but it is saying thank you, for the effort and the care and the nights spent burning the midnight oil, on occasion to get things right.

I think it is hugely important to show appreciation for people who are carrying out a vocation, not actually for a huge salary (compared with the aforesaid doctors and other professionals) but to show that there is that respect and gratitude there.

That is why I think the whole ethos of this thread, which appears to have been set up to attack teachers at a time of national crisis, is well, very unfortunate (to put it very politely).

So, thank you teachers.

SmileEachDay · 29/09/2020 21:54

Here - Thank you

Barbie222 · 29/09/2020 21:54

I have, like many women, suffered terribly from a school that did almost nothing support or teach children during lockdown. It is then hard to hear that all schools and teachers are super hard working and brilliant.

Why didn't you take this up with your school then? I've still yet to actually find, or hear about, one of these schools in real life that didn't set work over lockdown. Do you know, it makes it very hard to hear that we are all being so lazy.

SmileEachDay · 29/09/2020 21:57

Why didn't you take this up with your school then?

iIRC not has moved her DC to a different school. She’s happy with the new school but is choosing to continue banging the same drum 🤷🏻‍♀️

noblegiraffe · 29/09/2020 22:01

Oh right so anyone whose DC is back at school and it's going ok must be an Usforthem person. I am simply telling the truth as I see it.

If people haven’t realised, this was posted by an ‘Usforthem person’. Which is pretty funny.

SmileEachDay · 29/09/2020 22:02

If people haven’t realised, this was posted by an ‘Usforthem person’. Which is pretty funny

Really? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

rookiemere · 29/09/2020 22:04

@noblegiraffe I joined us4them specifically around the campaign in Scotland for part time school not to be the default option. I don't agree with a lot of whats pushed - happy for DS to wear a mask for example- and I do recognise that if the numbers reach a certain level then face to face schooling will be untenable.

But at least us4them has put schools on the agenda and means - hopefully- that everything else will be shut before schools.

Marcellemouse · 29/09/2020 22:05

I'd this really how ALL teachers think?

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SmileEachDay · 29/09/2020 22:06

I'd this really how ALL teachers think?

Is what how all teachers think?

echt · 29/09/2020 22:07

I'd this really how ALL teachers think?

What do you mean?

echt · 29/09/2020 22:07

It's as battily vague as the OP' OP.

Pomegranatepompom · 29/09/2020 22:08

Agree with pp, I also don’t know anyone in real life that wants schools to close. I’ve been really impressed with the organisation, communication and commitment from the school so far. My DC are so much happier.
Some of the aggressive posters on here, some of whom claim to be teachers, have done a huge disservice to teaching profession. Created unnecessary ill feeling imo.

Barbie222 · 29/09/2020 22:09

I remember another thread which ended up in a very similar way at a very similar time of day

herecomesthsun · 29/09/2020 22:13

What's the reality? (question in the OP)

We are, yes, in a pandemic.

We want our kids to be educated and we also want schools ideally to stay open safely.

Some of us at least would like them funded to do this more safely.

A lot of us support the teachers and would prefer them not to be attacked and/ or spammed by focus groups. As we would like them to continue to teach our kids please.

EugenesAxe · 29/09/2020 22:16

I work in a school and don’t notice any of my colleagues begrudging being back. Happy to be with each other and to have all the children back to a relatively normal routine.