Will disruption over the October half term be the final straw?

[beanburgerandcheese]

Just that - will it be the point that people say enough is enough with this? Summer plans already disrupted, millions have planned for UK breaks through the October half term just to face potential disruption again. ow long will people patience last with this?

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and its affecting the whole world

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Only snowflakey people will think it's the final straw, most others will understand about any disruptions to daily life, including holidays, and Christmas, and later.

What would riots /civil unrest achieve for those who don't want to comply? Genuine question ...cant get my head round it.

About the same as Brexit will achieve for them. They haven't the faintest what they want to materially achieve (or what they may lose), so long as they 'win'.

(Apologies for bringing Brexit inrio it. The correlation between the two groups is very, very high.)

@Riceandpoppadoms

"It is thought that the circuit breaker could be timed for the half-term period at the end of October to avoid any further disruption to schools, a government source told the Financial Times" From: www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/circuit-breaker-lockdown-coronavirus-uk-what-boris-johnson-b500116.html *@DumplingsAndStew*

Can't read that due to adblocker, but noted the headline. Not everywhere in the UK has half term at the end of October, so if that is the plan, they might want to rethink.

Only snowflakey people will think it's the final straw

@1forAll74 How do you define snowflakey people?

@ListeningQuietly

Many people will be worrying rather more about whether they will have a roof over their head by the end of the year

and EVERYBODY should be worrying about how we will put food on the table in January after the end of Transition
no matter how rich people are, if its not made it through Dover customs, Ocado will not stock it

Amongst those worrying about whether they have a roof over their head will be those people who work in the travel industry who are losing jobs in the 1000s because people on this thread are advising people not to go on prebooked holidays.

It amazes me that people worry rightly about the economic effects of brexit whilst appearing oblivious to the economic effects of lockdown. If the government tries to keep families shut away in their houses at half terms and holidays there will be huge economic impact.

@Sidewinder30

It's been 7 months of Covid disruption. It's a worldwide pandemic and a national emergency. At the beginning of all this, the best educated guesses were that a vaccine would take 18 months minimum to produce. It was obvious by April that there would be no return to normal without either a vaccine or effective treatments. Even by the most optimistic estimate (that there will be an effective vaccine, delivered roughly on time at 18 months), we're not halfway through.

So pull it together, OP. Everyone's suffering, a tragic many are dead or mourning their loved ones. It's shite. Declaring that disruption to the October half term is your last straw is frankly ridiculous.

I never said it was my last straw. I asked if it will be the point at which people lose patience with the restrictions?

They may just go for 2-3 weeks to cover all the half-terms!
Someone above suggested just cancelling half-term so the pupils can catch up on schooling - also a good idea! (sorry to teachers who need a break)

The kids also need a break from school (not just teachers and other staff), thats why a break is scheduled then in the school year.

We looked at going away decided better of it I thought it was too risky and that it wasn’t a priority. I must have low expectations these days because as long as my eldest remains in school, my youngest remains in nursery and we are all healthy everything else can be on hold for now.

I absolutely Dont want life to be restricted further and certainly don’t think another lockdown is necessary but I dont think frothing over people not being able to get away on a holiday that’s hardly essential is the way to go either

@MagicSummer

I think people should be discouraged from going away at half-term in October. Look what happened when all the kids went on ski-ing trips in the February half-term and what they brought back with them!!

^ This. People have short memories. I know it's disappointing but this level of disruption won't last forever. We can all make small sacrifices to help decrease the spread of disease & it's impact on all our lives. At the very least they should make sure people quarantine / test those who do return from foreign trips.

People can wish for normal all they want @beanburgerandcheese but they aren't going to get it without everyone taking sensible precautions to limit the spread of this disease.

Unfortunately there seem to be many people who think their right to carry on as they please is the most important thing. It's not.

We need children at school, we need people in jobs. Coping with restrictions to enable this is more important than having a holiday or being able to sit in a pub past 10 pm.

As others say there are far more important things than a holiday.We’ve been living with the pandemic for long enough to know that there can be no certainty and people booking holidays have to accept they are taking a risk.It’s not about losing patience or the last straw, it’s outside of everyone’s control and we must continue to be patient and resilient as long as we have too

In 2011 there were riots in Salford and Manchester along with other places which are now under lockdown.
These were alleged to about the shooting of Mark Duggan but in reality just an excuse for looting from the shops on Market St.
Just takes somebody to kick off again maybe if the pubs are shut. No outlet for these young men, no sport, no pubs or money no jobs either.
Doesn't really have to be about corona that could just be the excuse.

I feel a lot of people are at the point now where they are just fed up and want to get back to normal. I can't imagine peoples patience going for too much longer if I'm honest.

Of course many people are fed up and want to go back to normal. But it’s not an option at the moment so people ‘losing patience’ is pointless. It’s a crap situation but it’s not a case of saying ‘We’ve has enough now, let’s carry on as normal.’

I guess it depends what the point of your OP is, to say people are fed up and want normality back, is stating the obvious. That they’ll lose patience and break restrictions, well some are already doing that but it’s making things worse. To say we should go back to normal, no that’s not an option unfortunately. It’s crap.

@beanburgerandcheese

Just that - will it be the point that people say enough is enough with this? Summer plans already disrupted, millions have planned for UK breaks through the October half term just to face potential disruption again. ow long will people patience last with this?

The final straw? Methinks the OP is very young.

There’s more than a good chance that an October holiday will look as enticing as Easter Holidays looked last April. As in not at all given the spread, hospital admissions and death rates.

I’m sure there will be sad faced brits demanding repatriation from Barcelona and complaining nobody told them anything about all of this stuff.

It’s so unfair 🙄

Literally everybody wants things to go back to normal and their patience is being stretched, but we all just have to get on with it frankly as going back to a normal situation is not going to be happening at the moment.
A half term holiday certainly isn't the top of the agenda for loads of people.
It's not just us, the whole World is trying to deal with this situation so your assumption that "I can't imagine peoples patience going for too much longer if I'm honest" is naive beyond measure.

I think October half term will be alright, people will stick to the rules. What WILL be the final straw is Christmas. Not just the day itself, but all the build up and the routines people have of meeting with so many different groups, parties and events .. I have a feeling it's going to be a very miserable Christmas this year.

Christmas is my grandad's favourite time of year and always has been, and he came so close to dying of covid in hospital in March. At the age of 80 I'm sort of in the mindset of making the most of my time with my grandparents as I'm so lucky to still have them - and it will be horrible to think that they might have to spend it at home, alone, particularly after such a difficult year.

@beanburgerandcheese. Will not being able to go on holiday be the point at which people lose patience with the restrictions? Possibly. Will they then take to the streets? Possibly. Will martial law be introduced then? Probably.

People have had operations/chemo/tests cancelled. They've not been able to see the elderly relations in care homes. Some people have lost others to this virus or lost their health, long term, to it. People in many industries have lost jobs to this virus and may never get employment again if their industry doesn't survive.

So I really hope I don't have a moaning Minnie telling me how hard done by they feel because they can't have their two weeks in the sun or wherever because of restrictions. Because they will seriously hope they hadn't chosen me to let of steam to. Letting off steam because they've lost their income or because someone is ill through this is fair enough. But if you and yours are well and employed you have nothing to moan about. Suck it up, get a grip and book next year.

It wouldn't be the final straw for me, no, but we don't normally go on holiday at half term.

Not letting uni students home for Christmas would be my breaking point.

What do you actually want to achieve with this thread, OP? How are you helping?

What don't you get about the word "pandemic" and the fact it isn't anyone's fault, therefore who will the "last straw" be aimed at.

Or is it just to get everyone frothing with even more frustration, that they can't have their week in Lanzerote.

And yet it is actually rather daft to plan an October half term break, this year, and if you stopped to think, you'd realise that.

yet = yes

Surely anyone booking a holiday over half term would have booked knowing it could all be cancelled at a moments notice depending on the numbers and such..

We haven't planned anything, but if we had we would have knwingly took the risk to do so. It would be unlucky if we had to cancel, but we would have known it was possible.

@BatShite

Surely anyone booking a holiday over half term would have booked knowing it could all be cancelled at a moments notice depending on the numbers and such..

We haven't planned anything, but if we had we would have knwingly took the risk to do so. It would be unlucky if we had to cancel, but we would have known it was possible.

Unless people booked before March.