Will disruption over the October half term be the final straw?

[beanburgerandcheese]

Just that - will it be the point that people say enough is enough with this? Summer plans already disrupted, millions have planned for UK breaks through the October half term just to face potential disruption again. ow long will people patience last with this?

Is it selfish of my 38 year old neighbour dying of leukaemia to expect that the last minute break to Devon that she booked with her children might not go ahead?

Life has to go on, people have stuff other than covid to worry about. Those who shout ‘selfish’ haven’t considered that other people have experiences and perspectives different from their own.

Which is a bit....selfish

@countessfrog

Absolutely, well said.

There's plenty of washable reusable masks around node @wanderings.

But why call them muzzles or face nappies? Why the infantile name calling? Why are you trying to encourage other people to be selfish? Who radicalised you?

Love the idea that there’s an extremist group going around ‘radicalising’ people into calling face masks ‘muzzles’

There's a lot of crossover into Qanon craziness happening from people who 'liked' an anti mask post on Facebook, got suckered into 'scandemic' and anti vaxx and then fell into blood libel and 'save the children'. @SoUtterlyGroundDown I've seen it, posts from people saying 'once you start looking it's amazing what you find'.

Terrifying how stupid people can be when they want to believe in something.

@DameFanny Who radicalised me? The Right Honourable Tony Blair and Boris Johnson, with their respective nanny states, Orwellian methods, self-serving agendas, and constant lies and spin. They are the reason I treat everything government says with not so much a pinch of salt, but utter contempt. The more government pushes a certain message, the more likely it is to be false, or at least diversionary, as far as I am concerned. As for name-calling of objects: both the above gentlemen love using slogans and nicknames, so I think it’s only right that we should use slogans and epithets of our own.

Tony Blair hasn't been in power in over a decade. Johnson's already lost 2 jobs for lying - no one expects him to tell the truth. But that doesn't mean you can't listen to, you know, actual scientists (and not the batshit ones in Trafalgar Square, the 99%)

And why muzzles? They don't stop you speaking. Or face nappies? Unless you are dribbling shit...

True, Tony Blair hasn't been in power for a long time, but he set a massive precedent for making lies and spin an "acceptable" part of government; and it was his government that conditioned us to accept the nanny state, 'elf and safety mania, and government trying to legislate all risk out of existence. Tony Blair is the reason I don't trust government at all. He was promising us the moon on a stick, just like Boris is doing with "get Brexit done", and vows to totally eradicate the virus. And now Boris is setting a precedent for the prime minster getting away with being a bumbling babbler, making frequent U-turns, which will eventually make them "expected" and "acceptable".

Call me a conspiracy theorist if you will, but I think we have a much bigger problem here than the pandemic, and that is that government by deception and fearmongering is becoming more and more acceptable, by stealth. It is becoming the new normal. In desperation, the public are hanging on the government's every word, true or false.

Scientists? And there's no bribery going on, so that they say what the government wants them to say? Scientists who don't agree with the government's agenda have never, ever been forcibly silenced? There are precedents for this.

Muzzles? They might not literally stop you speaking, but along with some protection (which may or may not merely be perception; nobody has been able to prove or disprove it) comes a by-product which is extremely useful to the government: mass conformity, with a very obvious facial symbol, where dissenters can easily be spotted. Funny how there was a U-turn from "they are useless" to "they are mandatory".

Look at the article I linked to a couple of posts ago on mask wearing evidence. And the u turn from useless to mandatory was predicted by many including myself, because half a thought would tell you that a. they've worked in Asia and b. they were trying to stop a run on masks when there weren't enough for HCPs back in March and April. Or were you not thinking for yourself back then?