"All over 45s to shield" - one of SAGEs suggestions

[BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz]

Bonkers. Loads of parents of young kids are 45+. So all those kids stuck indoors/no school.

Massive amount of employees who can't work from home being (What?) Furloughed?

How many teachers/TAs/doctors/nurses/childminders are over 45? Tons!

Your immune system is aging.

I think the government would have a better chance of getting shielding based on age accepted if they set the threshold a lot higher, e.g. 65 and even then they will encounter some resistance, but I think if it meant shielders had access to regular online groceries and prescription delivery then they would be more likely to agree, especially with addition of daily exercise allowed etc.
It won't work in people of working age with parental responsibilities who were not previously classed as ECV.

This is not necessary

But shielding those people and letting everyone else go back to normal crashes the NHS. That's why the solution is stupid

I love how so many people are saying they'd refuse to. You do realise why it's being suggested right?

Hilariously I'm sure there are a number of 45+ who say "the vulnerable should stay at home, we can go out! Grumble grumble".
They don't even know it's them!

But in the first wave, the death rate for under 60s was relativelylow.
I know about long covid - but that is a typical post-viral phenomenon with other viruses too and you can't predict it.

@WouldBeGood

When controlled asthma is a pre-existing condition I always think those sorts of figures are very disingenuous.

45 is ridiculous but I do see the sense for the elderly say 75 plus to shield.

[quote SallySeven]@WouldBeGood

When controlled asthma is a pre-existing condition I always think those sorts of figures are very disingenuous.[/quote]
They are very low though. Should not justify shielding!

@TableFlowerss

45? I could understand 65 but not 45.

A 45 year old with a bmi of 20 or average would be better equipped to fight covid than an obese 30 year old......

Nope. I’m 66, still work full time, travel to see my partner every week. It’s all relevant isn’t it ? As you rightly say, there are other considerations. Probably an unpopular opinion, but I’m sick of seeing all the new uni students whining on every News programme. I know they’ve had a difficult time, but FFS.

Pre existing condition covers all sorts of things that may not make you predisposed to covid 19.

I see a specialist for something totally unrelated to lungs, immunity or circulation. It hadn't occured to me before but I suspect that would put me in the category of pre existing condition for these statistics.

I think the university students and their parents have been duped into paying for halls tbh. Courses are online and it was forseeable that they would be locked down.

I'm 50, plump-ish but fit and active.
I will happily work at home all winter. I do not fancy long covid.

No way on earth will I stop my children attending school if that is what they mean by shielding. Not a chance.

I think the government would have a better chance of getting shielding based on age accepted if they set the threshold a lot higher, e.g. 65

So how would that work if one partner is over 65 and the other isn’t? DH is 66 and I’m 45 so would I be expected to shield as well?

I love how so many people are saying they'd refuse to. You do realise why it's being suggested right?

Shielding has never been mandatory so yes, I would refuse knowing what I know now about my health. As far as I can see the suggestion of shielding the over 45s is because the government and their ‘experts’ haven’t got a bloody clue

If the government really implemented this they’d be fucked! The NHS would be screwed, the PO would be screwed, the whole fucking lot of us are screwed!!

Well if they did that, most of the staff i work with would be off. Who would care for the residents then. Probably the only thing going against me, is that i smoke.

I love how so many people are saying they'd refuse to. You do realise why it's being suggested right?

And you realise people have jobs to go, elderly parents to look after, children to look after?

The death rate does not drastically go up at 45.

I'll be out the door before anyone.. Bye have fun working without me.

@Ponoka7 re over 60's this is why the new vaccines for flu have an adjunctive added to the 3 varieties of flu for the over 65's those under this age have a different version which is for 4 varieties of flu without the additional adjunctive
I learnt last year that in cases of possibly resistant sepsis that 2 antibiotics are given as treatment iv - they work thank god

@BabyLlamaZen we get tested every week (care home), so none off us would have to stop working because of our age. No one has come back positive, all negative

thank god

I know the the death rate does not go up drastically at 45. However it goes up enough so that if things went back to normal enough of them would end up i hospital so that the NHS would hav would be in trouble again ...

Oh no sodding way. I'm supposed to be shielding and am doing my best to be as cautious as possible but it's quite honestly impossible. Currently having treatment for breast cancer, I'm a 100% single parent to a 9 year old DS with Autism, ADHD and SPD. I'm 51. What am I meant to do? I'm tested weekly because of my treatment, so far so good. I take all the precautions I can. However, DS has to go to school for his mental health as well as mine, I have to get on with "life". It is what it is. They make such a fuss about shielding but I was diagnosed in March and didn't receive my shielding letter from my GP until the end of July when shielding was paused. I had a priority online shopping slot given to me at the same time. What the fuck did they think I was doing between March and July? I was going shopping once a week because we needed to eat. All of a sudden I end up with box after box of food items on my doorstep which would have been lovely in March but a bit bloody late four months later! All of it went to the food bank. I'll just carry on as I am thanks, no other choice.

There are a lot of people over 45 with children in school, especially secondary schools, which are ridiculously insecure for covid.

If secondary schools especially were made safer, with social distancing (as they are in Europe) then all those very many thousands of parents 45+ would be instantly much. much safer.

Likewise, the many thousands of teachers 45+.

Without any of them having to shield or being taken out of the workplace! All those adults still economic active, all those children having a better chance of staying in school/ Schools less likely to shut suddenly, children less likely to lose a parent or to have significant family illness.

Win win, surely?

@MadameBlobby are you shitting me ? I am 47 with a 6 and 2 year old .. how do they get to school and nursery ? How do I look after them
I will not be shielding sage can fuck off

@MadameBlobby sorry I meant that in reply to the post you were replying to sorry x