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Tracking University Covid Outbreaks

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TheeStallion · 24/09/2020 13:46

University of Glasgow: 124 positives - 600 self isolating students www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-54268780

Abertay University (Dundee): 1 student positive - 500 told to isolate

Oxford Brookes: 30 positives

Uni of Liverpool: 87 positives of staff and students

St Andrews: 4 positive, 40 isolating

Edinburgh Napier: 11 positive

Kent: 2 positive

Newcastle: 30 positive, 22 students, 8 staff

Swansea: 11 students

Cases reported at:

De Montfort (Leicester)
UWE (Bristol)
Aberdeen
Manchester Metropolitan
Stirling
Bath
Warwick
Queen Margaret (Edinburgh)
Queen Mary (London)

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HoldMyLobster · 28/09/2020 01:17

Two things really strike me about this.

One is that the UK government seems to want the entire education system to somehow magic up solutions with no guidance or extra budget - both schools and universities.

Two - no solution is going to make everyone happy. DD's US college told 1st/2nd years in advance to stay home and do college online, for everyone's safety. They're not having to pay for accommodation, and they got a discount on their fees, but they're still pissed off.

And the students who have come back to college are still being told they absolutely must not socialise outside of their households.

Pandemics suck...

TBHno · 28/09/2020 01:28

@TheeStallion

Where did you get those numbers from please?

teacherteachers · 28/09/2020 02:12

One of my colleagues is doing his masters at the moment, his university are not doing it online and had a study day all day Friday for students from across multiple schools in the county, no online options at all, it's disgraceful. He's complained as he thinks it's a ridiculous risk.

CharlieParley · 28/09/2020 02:27

Update: Late on Sunday, the Scottish Government published new guidance for students, rowing back on a number of the more draconian restrictions.

From our perspective, given that our oldest suffered from depression during first year, and my DC in first year now is already struggling after the first week, this is good news as not only moving back home is now allowed again, but home visits for wellbeing reasons are, too, as well as going home to self-isolate. (At least for now. Local lockdowns may change this of course.)

Here's the relevant quote for home visits:

However, it is a defence to show that there was a reasonable excuse in the circumstances. A reasonable excuse might include a visit home for a family emergency, such as a bereavement, or for wellbeing reasons.

The restrictions seem far more sensible and fair - moving into a new household for instance was allowed for anyone else but students under the previous government guidance. (Lifting the ban on students moving back home.)

Those seeking to self-isolate at home must make arrangements with the staff at the halls so they can be picked up safely, must not travel home on public transport and the home they're going to must then also self-isolate. But they are now allowed to be looked after by their families if this is necessary.

The government has now also acknowledged that the ban on Scottish students visiting visiting hospitality venudes such as cafés, restaurants and pubs was not a legal restriction, but advice. Even though Aberdeen University was on Sunday threatening to fine students £250 if they do.

Various human rights lawyers, most notably Aamer Amwar in a BBC interview, have stated that full scale lockdown of entire student halls is unlawful imprisonment and that neither universities, nor private security nor landlords have the legal power to stop students from leaving who are not self-isolating because of an actual or suspected case in their household.

I would hope that the situation in England is clarified asap, because they have just introduced new powers for local authorities that may enable them to place some extra restrictions locally - but only by meeting certain conditions and under specific circumstances. (IOW, Manchester Metropolitan University is still not authorised to do what they did under these new rules, but they might be from now on. The lawyers were not yet sure about that. )

luckystarmaking · 28/09/2020 02:47

Cases at Essex took OP

TheeStallion · 28/09/2020 09:26

@TBHno This is where I get my figures unicovid.uk/news-reports/28-september-2020/

I also use sky news.

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TheeStallion · 28/09/2020 09:27

Just over half of the 58 cases in Devon this past week are at Exeter University. thetab.com/uk/exeter/2020/09/26/more-than-half-of-the-covid-19-cases-in-devon-are-linked-to-exeter-uni-48964

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TheeStallion · 28/09/2020 10:15

Uni of Aberystwyth has become first to suspend all face to face teaching following an outbreak at its campus.

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TheeStallion · 28/09/2020 16:39

Queens University Belfast: 30 people positive, 100 self isolating.

University of Chester: small number of positives.

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BillThePony · 28/09/2020 17:17

@TheeStallion

University of Portsmouth: 14 students test positive .
Will be watching this once carefully, dd goes back this week.
ChaChaCha2012 · 28/09/2020 18:21

University of Nottingham has students in isolation.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/topics/ck302jwljz9t/university-of-nottingham

TheeStallion · 29/09/2020 12:21

Sunderland: 40 cases

Uni of Sussex: confirms outbreak of handful of cases

Birmingham City: 5 cases

Aston: cases in single digit

Uni of Edinburgh: current number of positives at 55

Uni of Swansea: current positive at 22

Uni of Reading: one positive

Gloucestershire : handful of students positive

St. Andrews: number of cases now 25

Uni of Dundee and Abertay : 52 cases combined

Uni of Essex: cluster of 5 cases linked to sports team

Royal Holloway: 1 case on campus

Brunel: 4 cases, 2 on campus

Total of 49 universities now reporting cases and term has not really stated Shock

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TheeStallion · 29/09/2020 15:37

Portsmouth: now has 17 cases

Glasgow: 172 cases

Glasgow Caledonian: 3 cases

Nottingham: confirms outbreak with small number

Leeds Beckett: outbreak with small number

York St John: ditto

Bournemouth: suspected covid cases

Uni of Bath: 1 case

Bath spa: 1 case

Aberdeen: 44 cases

Robert Gordon: 2 cases

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Orangeblossom7777 · 29/09/2020 17:14

I wonder if the positive cases, when recovered, then keep having to isolate again and again if in contact with another positive case.

Might be a very long year...

HoldMyLobster · 29/09/2020 17:36

@Orangeblossom7777

I wonder if the positive cases, when recovered, then keep having to isolate again and again if in contact with another positive case.

Might be a very long year...

A friend's son has had Covid, recovered, and is now isolating again - he's at MMU. He'll have been in his room for 28 days by the end of it. Poor sod.
HesterBlue · 29/09/2020 20:29

How are universities counting cases does anyone know? Are they all reporting consistently with each other on this?

TheeStallion · 29/09/2020 20:32

@HesterBlue

No and that’s why it’s likely the outbreak is far worse than what the figures show.

Unis have different testing arrangements and different reporting procedures.

Uni of Sheffield is most transparent.

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HesterBlue · 29/09/2020 20:35

I'll check Uni of Sheffield out, thank you

muffin21 · 30/09/2020 05:23

Uni of York have reported cases yesterday, they haven't said how many but say it's currently single figures.

joystir59 · 30/09/2020 05:33

Going to university should have been cancelled until CV-19 vaccine available. What's the point of all these students travelling from home and paying huge amounts of money just to sit in halls of residence or student flats doing online courses and having no social life?

AnotherNewt · 30/09/2020 05:46

Reasons:

a) not all students are in halls
b) labs and libraries
c) societies up and running
d) sport up and running
e) some F2F teaching
f) can still graduate at expected time
g) proximity and availability of tutors
h) utter lack of anything else to do with the year
i) significant downside to a forced year off for those students (the majority) who aren't freshers

But yes, OU is also available for those who wouid rather study at home

Perhaps that should have been talked about more earlier in the year

Murraytheskull · 30/09/2020 13:21

@joystir59

Going to university should have been cancelled until CV-19 vaccine available. What's the point of all these students travelling from home and paying huge amounts of money just to sit in halls of residence or student flats doing online courses and having no social life?
As has been pointed out already, with no University year the sector has very little source of income. Without government support (which they would never have given) most universities would go under. Going forwards there would be no university for the vast majority of students to go to.
Porcupineinwaiting · 30/09/2020 13:27

@joystir59 and is that what students want do you think? I see no evidence of that at all. V few 2nd/3rd year students would want an indefinite break and all first year students had the option to defer. They chose not to. We should respect that.

nightsoutasap · 30/09/2020 13:31

I get that universities needed to continue to allow students to come, but in my experience, the support for those who have tested positive is abhorrent.
My daughter is a fresher at the University of Nottingham, tested positive yesterday. She has not spoken to any of her flatmates (but did form friendships with others in her halls). She is very poorly, nobody is checking on her. She cant access the kitchen, food is not being supplied, she cant wash her laundry.
She is also being offered no support in light of the fact she was “missed off a list” and cant enrol properly, meaning she has no access to her maintenance loan. This is causing a ridiculous amount of stress on top of the Covid illness.
Im several hours away and am sick with worry. I think more should be in place to support the students who are sick.

Ginfordinner · 30/09/2020 16:50

That's dreadful nightsoutasap Flowers