We were doing ok until we opened all the schools....

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After lockdown was lifted pre September and pubs, restaurants etc were opened we seemed to have a handle on Covid with cases, hospital admissions and deaths all declining fairly steadily. Since we released millions of school aged children and thousands of teachers etc back into the classroom- boom, cases and consequently deaths, are now growing very rapidly again. It didn't take a rocket scientist to work out that this would happen. I work in a school and I have a 15 year old starting his gcse's so I 100% don't want the schools to close but surely there must be a more workable solution? Couldn't schools be one week, one week off for different bubbles or alternate days? Nobody wants schools to shut but surely in the long term if we don't get something safer in place and just continue sending kids and adults in day after day, then eventually they will close again?

@islockdownoveryet

No sorry still don't know why your spending £30 A bottle of disinfectant £1 lasts weeks Disposable masks £2 I don't think you need to change every couple of hours unless you are performing surgery and I don't think you need surgical ones at a school either , and soap and water costs penny's but it's your money so if you want to spend £120 a month do it .

It's for 2 teachers so £15 each. Latex gloves are about £12 quid a box, get through at least a box a week between us, alcohol wipes/spray/gel and masks... as well as bringing in soap. Oh and I've bought textbooks out of my own pocket recently too as they weren't brought back by all my year 13s and online resources (I may claim these back though at some point...)

They are in total denial
It is schools

If it is schools then its down to the parents and families not following the SD guidelines and socialising too much, after all somebody needs to take it into the school in the first place for it to be able to spead. If adults reduce their social contacts it will make it safer for children to be in school

So what if it has? Do you propose to lock kids up at home for the next two years? Enjoy the total lack of doctors to look after you later. Education isn't just for fun.

@KillingEve20

Rubbish, every time we ease lockdown the numbers will rise as more people are socialising - Covid is not going away! We have to live with it, imagine if we kept track of the numbers of the common cold spreading or norovirus, wed never leave the house 🙄

Its not the common cold though. Its not norovirus. It has the potential to kill you. It is Russian roulette.

@Concerned7777

*They are in total denial It is schools*

If it is schools then its down to the parents and families not following the SD guidelines and socialising too much, after all somebody needs to take it into the school in the first place for it to be able to spead. If adults reduce their social contacts it will make it safer for children to be in school

A child could take it into school!

I agree, in that cases were always going to rise when they opened the schools again.
You can't keep children off school forever though, realistically they have to go back!
It's alright if you've got a SAHP like me, who can and did happily home school at the drop of a hat, but what happens if you have two working parents, or neglectful ones who don't give a shit?
We can't keep them off forever. Socially as well I think it does them good as well to see their peers at school and not be isolated.

Cases were rising before schools went back. Most schools didn’t even go back until Week of 7th September.

www.rcpch.ac.uk/resources/covid-19-talking-children-families-about-returning-school-guiding-principles#main-content

This is an interesting read.

@Angel2702

Cases were rising before schools went back. Most schools didn’t even go back until Week of 7th September.

I don't know any that weren't open to some kids on 2nd September onwards. Most were fully back by the 7th.

1749 schools now, if England and to a lesser extent Scotland could release official figures then it would be much much higher.

Cases were rising before schools went back. Most schools didn’t even go back until Week of 7th September

That's very true, didn't go back until 11th here.
So wouldn't have had chance to see any spikes due to being back at school already

Cases have been rising since early August, coinciding with staycations, eat out to help out, hospitality opening and people feeling more relaxed.

From PHE about COVID settings..

Only 4-5% of covid cases result in death, norovirus can kill the elderly and vulnerable as can the common cold, it can start as a cold and become a nasty chest infection leading to pneumonia. Covid is undoubtably deadly, but so are many other viruses, it isn’t going anywhere, the numbers will drop if there’s another lockdown then they will rise when we open things back up.

2X Scotland do release figures.

You may not like them, but they release them.

@neveradullmoment99 if some families are socialising more than others and not maintaining SD its there child that's likely to be the one taking it into school

@KillingEve20

Only 4-5% of covid cases result in death, norovirus can kill the elderly and vulnerable as can the common cold, it can start as a cold and become a nasty chest infection leading to pneumonia. Covid is undoubtably deadly, but so are many other viruses, it isn’t going anywhere, the numbers will drop if there’s another lockdown then they will rise when we open things back up.

I think the IFR is estimated at 0.3-0.6% but if we delay the spread we have more time to develop therapies/treatments.

[quote Concerned7777]@neveradullmoment99 if some families are socialising more than others and not maintaining SD its there child that's likely to be the one taking it into school[/quote]
True :)

@Timeforanotherusername

2X Scotland do release figures.

You may not like them, but they release them.

I didn’t say if l liked them or not, I was quoting Tory fibs as per attachment.

We are probably seeing an increase following all of the loosening of restrictions in August. But schools are starting to spread the virus at an alarming rate.

My school has been back three weeks. I am isolating due to one confirmed case of a student in my form. There are 3 staff who have tested positive and another 5 students. The list of students who are having to isolate because of these cases stands at 109 students.

There are other students who are waiting for tests.

I tried to teach from home this morning but it was chaotic - some of them are sick, some at home and some in school so it makes it impossible to do coherently. I would be able to teach if all were at home or all were in school. As it stands, the education offer is already second rate. A decision on blended learning would support a better programme of education.

I feel like the chances of me having to isolate again in the next few weeks are very high. I have to be within 2m of my students - there's nowhere else to go.

People will/are refusing to accept that schools are a major driver for cases increasing. So even though there is likely to be a work around they won’t be discussed

No, we all went on holiday in August and rushed back home before quarantine restrictions came into place! Or we spend time sunbathing on a crowded beach.
Thanks to Eat out to Help out, we were than able to share our little souvenir with everyone. And now, we continue to share through not complying with mask wearing in shops and other public spaces. And yes, our DC are finally back in school, sharing the little souvenir from their friends and family ... or just some stranger in a plane.

No one, least of all teachers, want schools to close. Teaching remotely is a nightmare apart from anything else, and it's preferable for everyone to be back in class.
But believe me, schools are (seriously) preparing (behind the scenes) for closures.

2X why look somewhere with an agenda when there is official data available?

Don't blame school opening. All the things that did or did not take place in August are the real cause.

Pubs should have had early closing in mid-August.

A lot of people have misunderstood me. You don't have to tell me how important education is. I made a POINT of saying in my op that I am in teaching and I value education greatly. I also said I have a 15 year old in Year 10 and I am TERRIFIED of his education being interrupted again. THE LAST THING I WANT IS FOR THE SCHOOLS TO CLOSE AGAIN. I just don't see how we can continue like this. We've had a confirmed case in my school and one in my ds's already, with bubbles sent home. I am most definitely NOT BLAMING THE CHILDREN ESPECIALLY AS ALL THE CASES I'M PERSONALLY AWARE OF IN SCHOOLS ARE IN ADULTS.They actually said to us at school that you are from far more risk of catching it from a colleague than a child. I just hope I am wrong and the spike isn't caused by the schools reopening.