Rise in young women being admitted to hospital

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Reported by Sky News:

An expert has said more women aged 20 to 40 are being admitted to hospital with COVID-19.

Professor Calum Semple, professor of child health and outbreak medicine at the University of Liverpool, said the rise could be attributed to work and caring responsibilities.

"It does really show that this is not just a problem of the frail elderly, this is a problem that can affect people between 20 and 40 just as well," he told BBC Breakfast.

"These people will be working in hospitality. Also in caring roles, some will be parents of school children. It's mainly to do with their public sector and public facing roles."

[quote Ugzbugz]@Jrobhatch29

Not at all, everyone on this thread is though. Its quiet simple to read about it though should you wish.

If you dont want to be scared dont read shit on here for a start.[/quote]
No clue what you mean.

Posting a comment that it's history repeating itself because that's what happened in the spanish flu is not accurate or helpful.

@lughnasadh

Lots of people will test positive in hospital even though they have no covid symptoms.

People are being routinely tested on admission.

The rise might be in young women giving birth/with ingrown toenails/having their appendix removed/cancer. And no Covid related issues at all.

THIS!

I bet it comes out that they were classed as vulnerable or had underlying health issues

@feelingverylazytoday

Why? Do those people deserve to die then in your view?

WTF? It's obvious people are going to ask questions about people's health when they're discussing a health issue. The only person who mentioned deserving was ... you.

Well I'm sick and tired of all the othering. I'm vulnerable and every bloody day there are posts on here saying that restrictions should be lifted and everyone should just get it because it doesn't matter if the old and vulnerable die because they wouldn't have lived long or would happily die if that means that the economy is better. It's bloody hurtful that is. So I can just die as long as little johnny doesn't have to distance? It's a disgrace.

In my opinion one if the best things that can happen to contain this virus if it starts targetting the young and healthy. Maybe more people will start taking it seriously then instead of being so bloody selfish.

My trust routinely tests everyone on admission and at day 5 and if they develop symptoms. Part of my job every day is to review all of my patients and check they have had a swab and if they are due re swabbing. I assumed this was standard for NHS.

I'm a teacher. I have it - caught at school. Not in hospital yet thankfully.

@Chestergirl39 I’m not, I said a few posters, quite prolific posters too who disgust me with their attitudes towards the vulnerable. I so hope more people follow the guidelines but judging by the Christmas thread sadly not. People bleating if they can’t have their usual 20 round the table Christmas Day their mental health will suffer, what utter bollocks. I’m angry with so much selfishness and the me me me attitudes expressed over and over again, even to the point of doubting the scientists who are at the top of their game. Unbelievable.
I don’t trust the Tory government but I do trust the scientists.

Jeremy So sorry to hear this, I hope you get better quickly.

Ghandi said "The true measure of any society can be found in how it treats its most vulnerable members"

I agree with PPs, this really needs to be contextualised.
It just throws women between 20 and 40 into panic (if they're that way inclined).

I had this conversation today with an older couple while having a coffee outside, we hoped the minority were being vocal and that the majority will try to protect the vulnerable.

I don’t trust the Tory government but I do trust the scientists.

Yes, those unbiased and employed by the government.
Jesus wept.

Most people behave with integrity, I like to believe anyway.

@OverTheRubicon

There's usually a 2 week lag between rising cases and hospitalisations, so it's unlikely to be teachers and schools in England at least. Far more likely that with increased cases in the community, people are seeing their female hairdressers and beauticians, sick people are being treated by female nurses, and ill teens are being nursed by mums etc.

According to the ONS, teachers had exactly the same mortality rate right before lockdown as other white collar professions, including corporate managers and others who were already largely working from home. It was the rates of hairdressers, of manual workers, of health care professionals that went through the roof.

This just makes no sense. How can i be compared as a teacher to someone working at home? How can they say we have the same chance of getting infected Asa teacher in primary, there is no social distancing and I am in a poorly ventilated classroom for hours each day

@IloveJKRowling yes, and 'it' treated them well by prioritising them (along with the vulnerable) over childrens's education and the economy..which is not some magical mystery tool of oppression but the very thing that keeps the country moving i.e. people alive via providing jobs which feed, water, shelter and clothe them and hospital services which diagnose and treat things aswell as and OTHER THAN (lovely shouty capitals) covid.

Yet, it also treated them appalingly by scaring them to death from ever venturing outside (where sunshine and the resultant vitamin D could have boosted their immunity and provided a protective factor against covid and many other diseases). Though that scaring to death is not limited to the elderly of course!

@pooiepooie25 but that is exactly the point, that teachers had the same mortality rate as corporate managers and far far lower than men in manual occupations. That's why all this talk of how young kids are actually the ones spreading it etc are patently bollocks. Yes, maybe their rate was slightly higher than someone working from home but that was balanced out by teachers being predominantly female and younger (but then, so.are hairdressers who had a rate many times higher).

Yes, teachers need better protection, yes I'd support split classes and secondary school.students wearing masks, because it's people's workplace and children and parents can be vulnerable too and all deserve protection. However the mass hysteria on here about the threat to teachers is simply not borne out by stats around the world.

I hope that this might help to change some of the selfish attitudes of the fuckwits who want to get on with their lives as usual while leaving the old and vulnerable to it. We would have a much better chance of dealing with the virus effectively if there weren't so many people who considered themselves untouchable.

So many variables to consider:

1. Were these women admitted because of symptoms of Covid? Or were they admitted for other issues and just happened to test positive?

2. Do these women have other underlying health issues? Are they sick with Covid?

3. How many people in the U.K. are currently in hospital because they have symptoms of Covid?

Unfortunately people have died with Covid, but fortunately most people recover and only have mild symptoms if any. Covid is not in the top 10 or even top 20 killers in England.

[quote OverTheRubicon]@pooiepooie25 but that is exactly the point, that teachers had the same mortality rate as corporate managers and far far lower than men in manual occupations. That's why all this talk of how young kids are actually the ones spreading it etc are patently bollocks. Yes, maybe their rate was slightly higher than someone working from home but that was balanced out by teachers being predominantly female and younger (but then, so.are hairdressers who had a rate many times higher).

Yes, teachers need better protection, yes I'd support split classes and secondary school.students wearing masks, because it's people's workplace and children and parents can be vulnerable too and all deserve protection. However the mass hysteria on here about the threat to teachers is simply not borne out by stats around the world.[/quote]
I am actually thinking that info was more down to hardly any testing being done at the time. We are told to socially distance, wear masks and that the virus is airborne. It is pretty obvious that school staff are a ton more at risk than someone working at home.

@TableFlowerss

I bet it comes out that they were classed as vulnerable or had underlying health issues

Oh well that's alright then

Testing

@Devlesko what’s the Jesus Wept comment for, are you implying I’m stupid? Yes I do trust them, it doesn’t make me stupid. Those who are stupid are the ones wailing for normal life and fucking baby yoga.

I think it’s awful to suggest CW and PV, who are very experienced and respected by peers would be government puppets.

Oh well that's alright thenhmm

@bumblingbovine49

Yes indeed, as we already know it affects the vulnerable etc so that’s not a news flash.

Healthy 20-40 year old women being struck down is almost unheard of so of course its statistically significant!!!

I keep looking but can't find the original data that are supposed to show the raw numbers.

How many women age 20-40 were hospitalised for covid on 14 September? How many were yesterday, 21 September?

@TableFlowerss

*Oh well that's alright thenhmm*

@bumblingbovine49

Yes indeed, as we already know it affects the vulnerable etc so that’s not a news flash.

Healthy 20-40 year old women being struck down is almost unheard of so of course its statistically significant!!!

Can't you see that you are trying to use this to "other"? It means that it would be better if everyone, also women age 20-40 be careful regarding covid because nobody is safe.