Rise in young women being admitted to hospital

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Reported by Sky News:

An expert has said more women aged 20 to 40 are being admitted to hospital with COVID-19.

Professor Calum Semple, professor of child health and outbreak medicine at the University of Liverpool, said the rise could be attributed to work and caring responsibilities.

"It does really show that this is not just a problem of the frail elderly, this is a problem that can affect people between 20 and 40 just as well," he told BBC Breakfast.

"These people will be working in hospitality. Also in caring roles, some will be parents of school children. It's mainly to do with their public sector and public facing roles."

I wonder if women are more willing to be tested? The reluctance of many men to seek medical help has been recognised before.

@Toblerone345

Do you have a link to the article?

@janinlondon I'm thinking the same. Without more information it could mean anything - maybe last week there was 1 young woman in hospital and this week there's 2?!

Yep. What does 'more' mean, exactly?

Obviously any rise in hospitalisations isn't good, but we need a lot more context here.

I am obese due to disability and this disability also makes me more susceptible to blood clotting. I am beyond terrified at this point. I lost two stone since March but it has stalled and just won't be able to lose enough, quickly enough. Three children at school...I really think I might die this Winter. I'm only 33 .

it is a Guardian article

www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/22/younger-women-bearing-brunt-of-second-wave-of-covid-in-uk

Isn't the severity of the illness linked with how much of a high viral dose you get at the point of infection? I can't count the amount of times I've had a cough directly in the face from my youngest. And women in this age range are more likely to be the ones looking after sick children. Obviously doesn't amount to all of the cases but it's surely common sense, children mixing bring home the virus, mum then looks after child with symptoms and gets a load of the virus herself while doing so.

Irresponsible reporting, useless article with no background information.

Either give us all the facts or none, sick of being drip fed useless information.

What I would like to know is if the rise is in proportion to a rise in cases in this age group i.e. Has the % of hospitalisations vs the cases remained the same as its always been, but now there is more cases but the overall risk level is the same? Or has the % of hospitalisations vs cases increased?

Sorry if that doesn't make sense. I'm very tired because my baby doesn't sleep.... Which now makes me worried im at more risk of covid after reading this thread....

Presumably, if they were in work in caring professions then they will have been reasonably fit and healthy.

have you never seen an obese HCP? and I say that as someone whose DD is in the said age bracket and a HCP, though fortunately not obese (yet).

@lughnasadh

People are being routinely tested on admission

No they're not.

Article states cases increased since early August and no evidence to link up schools.
Its a a bit shoddy to scaremonger.

[quote DumplingsAndStew]@lughnasadh

People are being routinely tested on admission

No they're not.[/quote]
I thought everyone was tested when being admitted to hospital? You certainly are when you go in to have a baby

@RepeatSwan

Fancy that, just as schools reopen with no distancing

I wonder how many will be teachers or school based staff??

Is it because women are in more lower paid work?
It would be really interesting to see how many of those hospitalised women are teachers or school support staff?

The 20-40 category is where we have seen the rise in cases ergo some proportion of those will get seriously ill. Young, fit and healthy can die from covid as they can from the flu. It is extremely rare though.

There's usually a 2 week lag between rising cases and hospitalisations, so it's unlikely to be teachers and schools in England at least. Far more likely that with increased cases in the community, people are seeing their female hairdressers and beauticians, sick people are being treated by female nurses, and ill teens are being nursed by mums etc.

According to the ONS, teachers had exactly the same mortality rate right before lockdown as other white collar professions, including corporate managers and others who were already largely working from home. It was the rates of hairdressers, of manual workers, of health care professionals that went through the roof.

It’s worrying as in back in March it seemed men were disproportionately affected. Therefore something has changed and we need to work out what!

There is still a very low chance of death for younger women compared to older people and men. This is a recent table from the Lancet.

@Pomegranatepompom

Oh quite a few people want schools closed, that’s pretty obvious.

Speak for yourself. I don’t. Which is why I wish more people would pull their heads out of the sand and actually get the government to do what they promised.

Then they have a fighting chance of staying open.

I noticed some younger teachers had died recently in the US, BAME and obesity seemed to be a factor there...

Some in their 20s and 30s..

www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-deaths-young-teachers-new-school-year-begins/

Is this still the old chestnut of "with covid" rather than "because of covid"?

What are normal stats for hospital admissions at this tome of year for women in that age range - can we compare that? Probably no, the information will be around somewhere, but how fucking hard is it to say how many people are in because they have covid? I appreciate there will be a small number for whom it isn't really clear but for the vast majority it should be possible to say X number have covid but are in because they are having a baby/broke their leg/have cancer etc etc etc.

@Itisasecret my DC attending school is my priority, I will do anything I can to help keep schools open. Prioritising schools, nhs, care homes/ workers for testing would help imo.

[quote DumplingsAndStew]@lughnasadh

People are being routinely tested on admission

No they're not.[/quote]
They were when I took ds in with appendicitis in June. They insisted on a test as soon as they knew there was a possibility they might have to admit.
We had to have the test back before he could go on a ward-which was a real hardship being in a private room.

Shit. I'm 26 and parents are vulnerable. DD started first year of school in Sep and I'm worried about it. Will start wearing masks to school run and hope that they let us take them home soon..

Doesn't seem much point in reception being there all the time, but then I have the resources to have DD at home and I know for other people it would be a nightmare.

Why don't they just make it optional so that people who need to send their DC can and those of us who don't can reduce the numbers?

This is exactly what happened with the Spanish flu, the second wave killed the young healthy people in that age bracket, maybe history is repeating itself.