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Rise in young women being admitted to hospital

190 replies

Char2015 · 22/09/2020 16:18

Reported by Sky News:

An expert has said more women aged 20 to 40 are being admitted to hospital with COVID-19.

Professor Calum Semple, professor of child health and outbreak medicine at the University of Liverpool, said the rise could be attributed to work and caring responsibilities.

"It does really show that this is not just a problem of the frail elderly, this is a problem that can affect people between 20 and 40 just as well," he told BBC Breakfast.

"These people will be working in hospitality. Also in caring roles, some will be parents of school children. It's mainly to do with their public sector and public facing roles."

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Orangeblossom7777 · 22/09/2020 16:43

I wonder if more people are being treated in hospital now than in the Spring when people were basically told to stay at home...

Tobeornottotea · 22/09/2020 16:47

@Camomila

Are they fit and healthy? I was ill in March (healthy white 32 year old, low BMI, no asthma etc) and I spent two weeks in bed. I was breathless for 3 or 4 days in the second week, I could sit up in bed and read my phone but I couldn't walk to the kitchen and make a cup of tea.

I think I got so ill because I had an 8 week old baby so was tired/run-down to start off with...I imagine a lot of young mums are pretty run down atm.

Yes I had similar and was also very run down
Tobeornottotea · 22/09/2020 16:48

@Dawnlassie

Are they regular size or chubbers?
Angry
thelittlefox · 22/09/2020 16:50

20-40yr old women? Mothers of young children then, bringing it back from school.

The sex-biased jobs thing has been all the way through since the start, so it can't be that. Schools going back has to be the difference.

Pomegranatepompom · 22/09/2020 16:56

The date is too early for school to be the cause.

lyralalala · 22/09/2020 16:58

@thelittlefox

20-40yr old women? Mothers of young children then, bringing it back from school.

The sex-biased jobs thing has been all the way through since the start, so it can't be that. Schools going back has to be the difference.

I think more women have gone back to work in all sectors since schools went back so it would be really good if they could say "Turns out women are more prone to it, but because they've carried the childcare weight since March many have been protected" or "It's women in x/y sector that have returned to work"

Also would be good if we knew how many of these women worked in schools as school staff are back in contact kids in much higher numbers now

DellaDoo · 22/09/2020 16:58

Someone posted a link yesterday to a gov website, and it showed many more confirmed cases of Covid.

However there was no way to work out why.

More women may take the test, more women are in occupations, social contact, so catch it more, women may be more susceptible.
I don’t know.

DellaDoo · 22/09/2020 16:59

More cases of women with Covid, sorry

RigaBalsam · 22/09/2020 17:00

@Pomegranatepompom

The date is too early for school to be the cause.
Hardly I am into my fourth week back.
DellaDoo · 22/09/2020 17:00

@Dawnlassie

Are they regular size or chubbers?
That’s pretty obnoxious
Itisasecret · 22/09/2020 17:02

@Pomegranatepompom

The date is too early for school to be the cause.
That’s not true. I’m in my 4th week back and the neighbouring LA their 5th so actually about right time wise.
Pomegranatepompom · 22/09/2020 17:11

Most schools around here have only been back 2 weeks.
More info requires - most care workers/hospitality are in the age bracket. Why assume schools?

DGRossetti · 22/09/2020 17:12

If nothing else, stress is a great way to depress the immune system.

TurquoiseDress · 22/09/2020 17:13

Are they fit and healthy? Or have existing health conditions including obesity?

This matters significantly as this helps put all the figures & statistics into context. Just by saying women aged 20-40 yrs is not actually that helpful and all it does is create worry and concern.

Yes, important to know this. If it's healthy thin people there's a problem. If it's fatties or those with chronic illnesses, fuck 'em, eh?

Yes, most definitely important to know this.
But, no not for the reasons you have put..and I really don't think anyone has said or implied that on this thread.

Itisasecret · 22/09/2020 17:18

@Pomegranatepompom

Most schools around here have only been back 2 weeks. More info requires - most care workers/hospitality are in the age bracket. Why assume schools?
The quote also assumes schools. The majority of LA’s in England are into their 4th week back. A few their 5th and a smaller amount their 3rd. The dates add up. Especially as this is the first time we’ve thrown 30+ adults into unventilated cramped spaces, without PPE since the pandemic took off. I’m mean it’s really not a difficult conclusion to figure out is it really? By burying our heads in the sand we will end up with school closures and no one wants that. Most schools have been back around 4 weeks, now we have a notable rise in young women admitted to hospital. If it’s not teachers, they will be parents. The conditions of schools are what has changed. There were never this many places crossing households before in prime conditions for a virus without PPE. That’s before your get onto parents hugging at the school gates.
feelingverylazytoday · 22/09/2020 17:22

@QuentinWinters

Whats that got to do with anything twilight? They've specifically said the increase in women is because they are more exposed to the virus because of their jobs.
They said it 'could' be attributed to these causes. That means they don't know yet.
Pomegranatepompom · 22/09/2020 17:22

The dates also fit with hospitality opening and eat out to help out. We should of course gather data from schools. I think there’s such an appetite to say schools are the cause, it’s not helpful imo. Government gave rightly said schools should stay open. I do think they should be prioritised for test and track.

janinlondon · 22/09/2020 17:23

More young women than....? More young women than old women? More young women than young men? More young women than over the previous X weeks? It could be me, but this seems to be a meaningless statistic...?

ragged · 22/09/2020 17:26

Daily admissions, 22 September, here.
237 admissions total all England.

They aren't broken down by age or sex. Is there breakdown by age/sex elsewhere?

Itisasecret · 22/09/2020 17:28

@Pomegranatepompom

The dates also fit with hospitality opening and eat out to help out. We should of course gather data from schools. I think there’s such an appetite to say schools are the cause, it’s not helpful imo. Government gave rightly said schools should stay open. I do think they should be prioritised for test and track.
Do you mean like the data public health England released? Where only 5% of recent outbreaks are linked to the hospitality industry? Places of education are the biggest culprit at 21% of outbreaks second only to care homes at 45%.

Public health England’s data quite clearly points to the ‘problem areas’. It’s freely available, denying an issue will not make it go away.

Schools will not stay open under these circumstances, no matter what they say. They are 2nd only to care homes for outbreaks and guess what? There is such and issue with care home that teachers and their families are not a priority for testing.

Denying the obvious is what will close schools, not because people want it.

Toblerone345 · 22/09/2020 17:30

Do you have a link to the article?

@janinlondon I'm thinking the same. Without more information it could mean anything - maybe last week there was 1 young woman in hospital and this week there's 2?!

user127819 · 22/09/2020 17:31

Given that Covid can cause blood clotting issues, I wonder if the contraceptive pill may be a factor?

Lovemusic33 · 22/09/2020 17:34

I am in that age group and work in care but I’m not worried. There’s a lot of scaremongering without giving the full details. Almost all the people dying from covid have at least one underlying condition or/and are obese. Yes there’s a risk to all of us, that risk is a lot higher if you are overweight or have a underlying condition and I can understand why anyone that falls into those categories would be worried.

Pomegranatepompom · 22/09/2020 17:35

Oh quite a few people want schools closed, that’s pretty obvious.

Inkpaperstars · 22/09/2020 17:36

We know that underlying conditions including obesity raise the risks for younger people, but we also know that totally fit, slim younger people can be hospitalised with severe illness from covid. I saw doctors from a hospital in Wales getting very frustrated with this and reiterating they had previously fit, young people in ICU including a twenty something who was a fitness professional. So while it is very important to analyse the data and look at overall risk, there is no 'safe' category'. Many obese people have experienced very mild Covid while fitter colleagues have been severely ill. You can get a steer on your own risk, but you just don't know.