My teens are saying they will ignore any new restrictions

[WearyandBleary]

Big argument this evening. My teens are saying they will ignore any new restrictions because they are mixing at school/college anyway, so what’s the point of not mixing outside of school?

They are really furious. I am quite shocked at how angry they are.

Are they being really selfish? I’m so cross with them. How are other people’s teens taking the possibility of more restrictions?

THe Brexit analogy is daft when it's applied to school kids. We are all old and capable of voting unlike them lol.

@WearyandBleary

What fines are they really going to give to teenagers who sleep over at their partner’s parents’ house? Or who socialise with their “bubble” at a private home? Really?

Teenagers can't really have a 'bubble' now can they?

I mean, a bubble is for a single person household (or single adult) to join with another household for support for the single person.

If a teen is staying at their mate's house, that's not a 'bubble', it's just a mate sleeping over. And that is currently allowed, as long as social distancing is maintained.

@canigooutyet the point is, schoolchildren and anyone under 22, all of whom have been badly affected by lockdown, are also going to be massively affected by brexit, and they had no say. The now 20 year olds perhaps should have been given a say. They've been handed brexit by an older generation, who won't suffer the consequences, and now younger people are being asked to sacrifice education, life opportunities and employment to protect those older people.

I can understand why some of them wouldn't feel compliant.

My teens are saying they will ignore any new restrictions because they are mixing at school/college anyway, so what’s the point of not mixing outside of school

If it's the same people, then this logic is sound isn't it? You said your DD is saying she will continue to see her BF outside of school.. Well if she's spending hours with him at school anyway then yes, it's pretty pointless avoiding him outside school isn't it?

Depends where you are in the UK. Millions of people are in local lockdowns Not allowed to mix in homes and all of NI from tomorrow evening.

I'm sure there will be those from the 70's who will say how joining fucked over many without their say!!

I do get your point though Rainbow.

@canigooutyet

I'm sure there will be those from the 70's who will say how joining fucked over many without their say!!

I do get your point though Rainbow.

That's a fair point too 😂 I don't want this to end up being a brexit bunfight either, just think, between brexit and coronavirus I'm amazed mumsnet hasn't combusted...

I think it actually ought to be remembered too that there are many elderly people who don't want to see their children/grandchildren/great grandchildren losing their jobs, education, life opportunities in their name. And many of them who would rather take their chances than be locked down as well.

Remember being a teenager and it felt like your whole world was ending when your boyfriend of two weeks broke up with you, or you fell out with one of your friends. That was bad enough. I can’t imagine being a teenager and having all aspects of your friendships/ social life ripped away (we all know and understand that social media can’t replace true friendship)

I feel sorry for all kids, including teenagers. They’re losing out of the best years of their lives, when they can build strong friendships.

It’s not like in the class things will be normal. It’s anything but normal at my DC school. Not allowed to talk to anyone, have to face the front, have to sit in the sane seat so no opportunity to make friends. Terrible

I feel really sorry for young people.

The only good piece of news is that they have added teachers to the priority testing list now, which should help schools stay open longer.

I don’t blame them.

Restrictions should be lifted.
Why should millions of people be sacrificed to protect thousands? It’s the wrong way round.

Exponential growth. Pretty scary when you look into it.

hmmm I wonder what the difference might be between school kids sitting at different desks in school. And teenage bf/gf hooking up outside of school?

I guess they are not happy if they cant "do it like they do on the discovery channel".

Bloody selfish children.

They’re losing out of the best years of their lives

FFS its been 7 months. Get a grip.

@Mintychoc1

I don’t blame them. Restrictions should be lifted. Why should millions of people be sacrificed to protect thousands? It’s the wrong way round.

I’m wondering at what point the government will realise this. Everyone I speak to agrees with this statement including a lot of vulnerable people. There are even thousands of old people in care homes who would rather die sooner surrounded by loved ones than drag out a miserable and isolated existence out a few months longer and in doing so sacrifice the futures of the younger generation.(this is what my gran who is in a care home has said. Tragic for both young and old)

Our kids are being experimented on. In their position I would be furious.

Nonsense.

I wish the government would use the infographics they did in the beginning for the hard of thinking. Not the one attached but similar.

@ZombieFan

They’re losing out of the best years of their lives

FFS its been 7 months. Get a grip.

What an inward looking comment. The effects of this will last for YEARS. I hope we’re back to normal in 5 years time but I wouldn’t hold my breath - and I’m not even being cynical. Also what about the hundreds possibly thousands of young people who have committed suicide as a direct result of this

@ZombieFan

They’re losing out of the best years of their lives

FFS its been 7 months. Get a grip.

Clearly you’ve got adult children, no children or are in the vulnerable group!!

I am as equally amazed!!

It's not just the elderly, a lot of us shielders feel the same.

And when they finally get into school now Pink, chances of them seeing their mates is also reduced due to many of them staying in their own classroom all day.

Yet there doesn’t seem to be an acceptable level of death for covid? 200 is nothing in 67 million

That's 200 on a particular day in October, continuing to double at a lower or possibly higher rate.

Young people will be affected if Covid is not controlled, and I don't just mean by the illness directly. The economic damage could make the lockdown we just had look like a tiny dent in employment and productivity. Their schools will close. The government won't need to make that happen, it will happen anyway. The health service won't be providing even A and E as we know it, let alone any other illness care. While rates have been low recently, non covid NHS has just started to try and tackle the backlog, that will all have to stop again. Deaths from non Covid causes will rise if covid does. Why people think that some have forgotten covid is not the only illness, I do not know. Many are working hard to bring covid rates down precisely so they can offer treatment for all the normal things.

@Kidlacky

i will also say ..... Eton pupils were all tested first day back. One rule for them ..... another for us. How can you trust?

They will have paid for private tests. The government will have nothing to do with it so not sure who’s trust you are questioning.

@Inkpaperstars

Yet there doesn’t seem to be an acceptable level of death for covid? 200 is nothing in 67 million

That's 200 on a particular day in October, continuing to double at a lower or possibly higher rate.

Young people will be affected if Covid is not controlled, and I don't just mean by the illness directly. The economic damage could make the lockdown we just had look like a tiny dent in employment and productivity. Their schools will close. The government won't need to make that happen, it will happen anyway. The health service won't be providing even A and E as we know it, let alone any other illness care. While rates have been low recently, non covid NHS has just started to try and tackle the backlog, that will all have to stop again. Deaths from non Covid causes will rise if covid does. Why people think that some have forgotten covid is not the only illness, I do not know. Many are working hard to bring covid rates down precisely so they can offer treatment for all the normal things.

3424 people die in road traffic accidents a day (obviously worldwide not uk but you understand my point) with thousands more seriously injured daily. We don’t take cars off the roads. Death is a tragic tragic reality of life that we all accept in every other given circumstance. In 2016 1.6 MILLION children needlessly died of Diarrhea - we did nothing .

and I’m not even being cynical

Yes you are.

what about the hundreds possibly thousands of young people who have committed suicide as a direct result of this

Perhaps they had underlying mental conditions? Many on here would therefore presumably regard them as 'vulnerable' and say their suicides could not be determined to be a direct result of covid or covid measures. They must have been vulnerable, they would say, and might well have killed themselves anyway in a few months. They might argue the mentally resilient shouldn't have to take risks just to save those who must have a poor life chance anyway.

I just want to add that all the above is crap, but just highlights the ludicrous double standards.

Also, I read that during lockdown deaths of young men from all causes fell, because they were engaged in less risky activity. Also that many young people surveyed had found stress levels falling away from the normal pressures of school.

When road accidents start growing exponentially be sure and let us know.