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My teens are saying they will ignore any new restrictions

418 replies

WearyandBleary · 21/09/2020 21:19

Big argument this evening. My teens are saying they will ignore any new restrictions because they are mixing at school/college anyway, so what’s the point of not mixing outside of school?

They are really furious. I am quite shocked at how angry they are.

Are they being really selfish? I’m so cross with them. How are other people’s teens taking the possibility of more restrictions?

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HipTightOnions · 21/09/2020 22:12

@Shizzlestix

It is bonkers. I have 30 kids in most classes but the there’s rule of 6 in homes/pubs. Quite mad.
The principle’s not mad. It’s only the rule of 6 - or similar or tougher measures - that makes it remotely possible for you to keep teaching your 30 kids.

It’s not working though, I grant you.

GarlicSoup · 21/09/2020 22:12

@kitnkaboodle

They are being selfish. They mix at school AND outside of school, they're together for twice as long (and in a more unregulated way) than if they were just at school.

It's immature to not understand this - so if they are 12/13 I might have some compassion with their point of view. If they are 15/17 they should be ashamed of themselves.

^ This Incredibly selfish.
Chewbecca · 21/09/2020 22:12

I get their perspective, it is contradictory.

How can I tell DS he can spend all day in the classroom with 20 others.

But then is not allowed for one of them to come home to our house.

But he is allowed to go to eat out with that person, with 20 others in the restaurant + staff.

JKRowlingIsMyQueen · 21/09/2020 22:13

@Smallereveryday

Then come back here in 8 weeks and tell me they feel the same .

A pandemic requires people to think of others. It doesn't go away because you are 'bored' of it.

Their actions and behaviour an kill someone's parents or grandparents. I would be horrified to have such self centred kids.

Oh give it a rest with the 'you're killing someone's grandparents' nonsense already.

As if all grandparents didn't leave the house since March. Plenty of them have went out to eat, worked throughout, went on holiday etc. I've been on holiday in Greece and so many older British tourists were there.

Meanwhile young people are responsible for killing granny if they have a drink in the pub? Ridiculous!

Plenty older people prefer to actually living and socializing instead of just surviving. Shocking, I know.

BatShite · 21/09/2020 22:14

Yeah have had this with DSS. Raging that hes not able to go to parties with the ver same people he spends all day in class with. I am honestly finding it quite hard to argue with him, as I do see his point.

CherryPavlova · 21/09/2020 22:14

They’ve hardly been set a good exam about following the rules by the government, have they?

HipTightOnions · 21/09/2020 22:14

Why not focus on proecting Care homes and hospitals and vulnerable people shield

If vulnerable people shield, schools will close because there won’t be enough teachers.

CherryPavlova · 21/09/2020 22:14

Example

HipTightOnions · 21/09/2020 22:15

@BatShite

Yeah have had this with DSS. Raging that hes not able to go to parties with the ver same people he spends all day in class with. I am honestly finding it quite hard to argue with him, as I do see his point.
At school there will be adults ensuring he’s not getting pissed, yelling or snogging anyone.
jasjas1973 · 21/09/2020 22:16

Young people are disproportionately affected by restrictions, in their social life, work and education, yet are hardly affected at all by CV.

They were also called snowflakes and told to "suck up" Brexit by the older generation..... so hardly surprising so many just say FU to a society that has turned its back on them in so many ways.

strawberrysandpecans · 21/09/2020 22:16

I don't blame them - they can see their friends all day and in lunchtime at college but not on the weekends Confused If the government is serious then it will also have to shut schools and unis otherwise they are sending out very mixed messages to young people.

ineedaholidaynow · 21/09/2020 22:17

If people carry on breaking the rules these teenagers won't be seeing their friends at school because schools will close

zoemum2006 · 21/09/2020 22:17

We gave the government 6 months and they failed to set up the measures to allow children to go back to school for more than a few weeks.

I don’t blame your kids in the slightest for being annoyed. I’m livid myself.

HipTightOnions · 21/09/2020 22:18

they can see their friends all day and in lunchtime at college but not on the weekends

...thereby reducing the amount of contact.

I can see why they don’t like it but it does make sense.

Timeforanotherusername · 21/09/2020 22:18

@ChodeOfChodeBall

Mine are saying the same, OP. I think they are being eminently reasonable.

They stuck virtuously to the first lockdown (in fact, they told me off on many occasions because I didn't stick to it). It was completely shit for them. Why would they do that again?

My student DC in particular is no doubt doing things that I would lose sleep over. But Covid isn't one of them.

you've obviously been setting a good example Hmm
MadameBlobby · 21/09/2020 22:18

I don’t blame them to be frank. They’ve already given up enough to protect others while being shat on by their elders.

HeyMacarona · 21/09/2020 22:19

It’s not just young people who won’t comply.

I spent March-July having to live apart from DP as his mother wouldn’t comply and refused to stop mixing with others. DP had to stay with her as she was recently bereaved. She didn’t comply then and certainly isn’t now.

BatShite · 21/09/2020 22:19

Mind, I have heard the exact same argument from adults too.

Even during the first lockdown when most were complying with everything..a load of NHS staff I know kept kicking off, saying hey were expected to work all day with same people, but going to their house after work for a cuppa was horrendous..then as other places started opening up a bit more, same argument from others who work in teams, or among the general public.

TBF I do really get where they are coming from. I also understand why it is the way it is though. But I couldn't really get angry for anyone for being pissed off at the situation, especially teens.

RainbowParadise · 21/09/2020 22:20

@jasjas1973

Young people are disproportionately affected by restrictions, in their social life, work and education, yet are hardly affected at all by CV.

They were also called snowflakes and told to "suck up" Brexit by the older generation..... so hardly surprising so many just say FU to a society that has turned its back on them in so many ways.

You really can't blame them for feeling like this either
CountessFrog · 21/09/2020 22:20

They’ve had enough and I don’t blame them.

annabel85 · 21/09/2020 22:20

They were also called snowflakes and told to "suck up" Brexit by the older generation..... so hardly surprising so many just say FU to a society that has turned its back on them in so many ways.

Maybe, but they can't just turn their back on the law.

fuzzymoon · 21/09/2020 22:21

It's just a kick reaction to the news. They need time to absorb it.
Agree with how awful it is. Normalise their feelings. I'd be surprised if they ignore the restrictions but they just need time to get their heads round it.

corythatwas · 21/09/2020 22:21

Young people are disproportionately affected by restrictions, in their social life, work and education, yet are hardly affected at all by CV.

Not true. Young people are affected by LongCovid.

CoronaIsWatching · 21/09/2020 22:22

Surely there comes a point where it becomes a human rights issue rather than a pandemic management issue

RainbowParadise · 21/09/2020 22:22

@HipTightOnions

they can see their friends all day and in lunchtime at college but not on the weekends

...thereby reducing the amount of contact.

I can see why they don’t like it but it does make sense.

I thought the main point of reducing the amount of contact was really to do with the number of people you come into contact with though? If it's been decided that schools are a priority to open and the benefits are more important than the risks, that's a good reason to come into contact with people. If it's the same people they are mixing with after it's hardly increasing the risk greatly