Chris Whitty to hold briefing tomorrow

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According to sky news, Chris Witty is to hold a briefing tomorrow and will not be joined by any members of the cabinet or Boris Johnson and won't take questions. He will apparently discuss different scenarios.

Does that sound odd to anyone else and does this maybe mean no further restrictions this week, let's just try and scare us all into being good instead?

Link: Coronavirus: 'Critical point' in pandemic as UK infection rate heading in wrong direction, says chief medical officer news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-critical-point-in-pandemic-as-uk-infection-rate-heading-in-wrong-direction-says-chief-medical-officer-12077482

According to Grant Shapps on Breakfast, Boris is coming out after the scientists.

@NotAKaren

Boris doesn't work on Monday's

No politician will be there as they are hoping the message might get through without Boris etc around.

'don’t understand why it’s so hard for people to understand that mixing is households is where it spreads. I can go to a restaurant yes but I’m well spaced from others and only there for maybe two hours. If had someone here at my house it can be for longer, in a smaller space and people are comfortable and naturally distance less'

The spike in Bolton is partly attributed to someone who returned from holiday abroad, didn't quarantine, went on a pub crawl testing positive days later. I firmly believe that situations like this linked to foreign travel are responsible for the increased cases coupled with people dropping their guard a bit more encouraged by a government that told them everything was safe.

The answer isn’t to stop people seeing their family, it’s to address the root cause which is socialising.....work, pubs, restaurants etc.

Actually it is. Work places, bars and restaurants are controlled in the most part, homes are not.

@KatherineJaneway I have started another thread about my recent experience in a packed restaurant encouraging everyone to sing happy birthday. While most started out very cautious I think many have gone back to business as usual if the packed restaurants over the final days of 'eat out' are anything to go by.

When they announced the temporary lockdown in Israel, one of their scientists said that for the first ten days of a lockdown you’re actually increasing the rate of transmission as infected people are stuck in with their household, so in household transmission increases. I’d be interested to hear if Whitty agrees with that.

@NotAKaren that needs to be cracked down on. Hospitality needs to be given strict rules not guidance that is legally enforceable, and if they break the rules they have to shut down. If they want to stay open they need to do their bit.

If they have a second NATIONAL lock down then I won't follow it. We are SD, hand washing and not meeting in groups and our infection level is extremely low. The chances of meeting someone in the area with covid is pretty difficult. Lots of testing though for colds and runny noses and 3 children all had negatives last week so bad to school today - school sends home anyone fortunately all managed to be tested so local FB mums page can see.

'The spike in Bolton is partly attributed to someone who returned from holiday abroad, didn't quarantine, went on a pub crawl testing positive days later.' So fine the prat that did this heavily.

Leave the rest of us doing things correctly alone.

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I think they will struggle to use the figures to justify it, in our area it shows a drop of three quarters in the number of cases per 100'000 over the last two weeks which must be because of the inability to get tests. If they do announce it then people are less likely to follow it. That's not a reason not to do it though.

Thanks for some of the messages in support of what I'm saying. It makes me think there is some sanity out there

I have had to come off Facebook because the posts on there on local news pages make me want to bang my head against the wall.
We are well into double figures on ITU now and I wish I could take some people who refuse to believe or comply around ITU.
For some reason the first time and even now I find it totally unnerving to see patients lay prone and respirator hoods on staff. It feels like I'm in a sci fi film
Maybe some people need to see it to believe it.

@ineedaholidaynow I agree and I am pretty sure many places are being responsible but many are not. We all have our part to play and premises need to be tightly monitored especially as we all move inside and they try to pack as many in as possible.

People are absolutely fooling themselves about the prospects of a vaccine. It is YEARS not months away.

In the Oxford trial one woman developed MS (judged unrelated) and another developed inflammation of the spinal cord 2 weeks after getting the booster. These are serious side-effects.

Any vaccine is expected to be less effective in the elderly, those with weakened immune systems and the obese. These are the exact same individuals who are at risk of covid.

So instead the plan is to inject the healthy population with a rushed vaccine which can have potentially life-changing consequences for a disease that is unlikely to harm them.

We need to stop clinging to the hope of a vaccine and look at how we can manage a virus that is totally endemic.

Check out The Briefing Room on Covid on BBC Sounds.

Is this a lockdown apart from schools?

Anyone make sense of that? I do check the news regularly each day, onliine but don't have a telly. Couldn't stand it.

@Eyewhisker

People are absolutely fooling themselves about the prospects of a vaccine. It is YEARS not months away.

In the Oxford trial one woman developed MS (judged unrelated) and another developed inflammation of the spinal cord 2 weeks after getting the booster. These are serious side-effects.

Any vaccine is expected to be less effective in the elderly, those with weakened immune systems and the obese. These are the exact same individuals who are at risk of covid.

So instead the plan is to inject the healthy population with a rushed vaccine which can have potentially life-changing consequences for a disease that is unlikely to harm them.

We need to stop clinging to the hope of a vaccine and look at how we can manage a virus that is totally endemic.

Check out The Briefing Room on Covid on BBC Sounds.

What a silly post... The point would be in vaccinate the healthy to gain heard immunity much quicker than natural heard immunity, therfore the elderly would be more protected as the virus won't be able to transmit easily through the general population... Nothing to do with protecting the healthy from the virus...

Also 2 illnesses that have be said to be unrelated to the vaccine out our 10s of thousands of people... I'll take my chances thankyou!!

Pub
Track and trace
Sitting apart
Ventilation (maybe?!)
Limited time usually

Home
Sharing cutlery/crockery
Touching surfaces
Hugging
Sitting closer (on a sofa)
Spending longer together

You do realise that T&T is just a list of names so they can ring you if someone has it? My parents don’t need a list of names, they know who’s been in their house and what their phone number is.

Pubs aren’t any better ventilated than homes. Tables aren’t as far apart because they want to pack more punters in. You breathe the same air as numerous strangers. And they reuse the glasses and crockery etc! If anything it’s worse because more people use the same glasses.

I would happily accept visiting family and not hugging or sharing cups. I won’t accept not visiting family at all. Not when the piss heads are still mixing down the pub and people are doing non-essential close-contact things like getting their eyebrows done. Stop them first, then I’ll think about following suit.

@Carrotcakeforbreakfast did you know Italy is seemingly doing quite well with figures. One reason is that apparently they’ve had a public information campaign where they have videoed inside ICU and played on TV as a sort of public information campaign akin to tarred lungs on cigarette packets.

I wish we’d do same here!!! Most people are so disconnected from death and the reality that they need a wake up call as to what this is all for!

@MadameBlobby the answer to your question is that most cases are transmitted in the home where people are not social distancing. Most workplaces require SD by law.

They have to get to the home though? Obviously once one member has it the rest will likely get it, but they must be be catching it somewhere. Id love to know whether school/supermarket/work are high risk activities now.

@Batshitbeautycosmeticsltd

Who gives a fuck?

People with at least half a brain.

@MadameBlobby

I doubt most people will give a fuck what Whitty says.

I think MOST people will, because MOST people give a toss about saving people's lives.

Only the selfish & stupid don't care

@Namechange313

Why the need for a second lockdown anyway? Yes infection rates are higher in recent weeks, but surely this was to be expected with the schools going back. The only thing that should matter is the amount of deaths and hospitalisations. 21 deaths today, sad of course for the individual families. But do 21 deaths warrant another complete lockdown?

Exponential growth. That's why.

@Beebityboo

Disgraceful that Boris is still hiding his ineffectual arse behind the proper adults.

Yes,it is. However, it's preferable than hearing him 'umm Ahh well, as I said' ing, without actually saying anything.

I still cannot fathom how, with the schooling he had, he's so dreadful at public speaking?! ,

[quote NotAKaren]@KatherineJaneway I have started another thread about my recent experience in a packed restaurant encouraging everyone to sing happy birthday. While most started out very cautious I think many have gone back to business as usual if the packed restaurants over the final days of 'eat out' are anything to go by.[/quote]
That's not my experience of eating or drinking out recently.

I do agree that any establishment flouting the rules should be reported but the ones I have gone to have all been very sensible.

Forgone - please do not be so patronising. In the Phase 1/2 trial only 543 healthy, low risk people were vaccinated. One of them developed MS. That is not thousands.

The Phase II/III is underway and to develop a condition that can lead to paralysis 2 weeks after a booster shot does not look like a coincidence. It still has not been given the go-ahead for trials to resume in the US.

None of the scientists are saying there will be an effective vaccine soon. They say at best, there is a chance of something next year but it may only alleviate some symptoms etc. Normally, these vaccines are tested for years, as that is how long it takes to be confident that they are safe.

It makes no sense to keep the country on pause when a vaccine is still a very long way away.