It's just an overreaction.

[madcow88]

Now don't get me wrong I followed the rules to the letter and still am doing as I don't want to break the law.

However I think it's all a massive overreaction and I don't want to sit by and allow my children's generation to be destroyed.

Their education is totally fucked, they will not get to have the same social experiences as we did as young people.

Why is everyone happily sitting by and allowing our government to restrict our lives over a virus that kills 0.01% of people. Whilst 1000s of people are dying every day due to the lack of treatment and social interactions.

I really just do not feel comfortable with all the laws on our freedom being changed so dramatically over a virus if truth be told is not as deadly as they would like us to be believed.

Don't get me wrong I have sympathy for those people who lost their lives and for the people who will lose their lives in the future but no more than for the people who die of flu and other viruses each year.

Yep. Definitely a case of the hare and the tortoise. And Sweden don’t have the added stress of repeated lockdowns.

@gypsywater I have. I'll get on with my life. You are welcome to your hysteria.

@disorganisedsecretsquirrel

@janeyloves
Not hysteria. Just building up to a long and hard Winter at the NHS.

@JS87

Did you know 450 000 British people died in WW2? So if 1% of the current population died of covid it would be more than that. I never hear anyone saying, oh well not many people died in the U.K. in WW2.

The difference is that the majority of deaths from WW2 were of young, fit, otherwise healthy men that could have had another 50 years left to live! That’s not the same as this situation now is it?!!

19:09 @TableFlowerss

The difference is that the majority of deaths from WW2 were of young, fit, otherwise healthy men that could have had another 50 years left to live! That’s not the same as this situation now is it?!!

You're right so it's absolutely fine to let the elderly and vulnerable get a virus that slowly suffocates them to death. Right?

@ForTheLoveOfSleep

19:09 *@TableFlowerss*

The difference is that the majority of deaths from WW2 were of young, fit, otherwise healthy men that could have had another 50 years left to live! That’s not the same as this situation now is it?!!

You're right so it's absolutely fine to let the elderly and vulnerable get a virus that slowly suffocates them to death. Right?

I didn’t say that did I?! I said it’s not the same as WW2 and it’s not. Vastly different. Under these circumstances, protecting one group means screwing over other groups.......!

That’s not the same as this situation now is it?!!
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Go on @TableFlowerss say it. "BUT they're old or have underlying conditions ".... That's what you're farting at.

@sunglassesonthetable

*That’s not the same as this situation now is it?!! !* Go on *@TableFlowerss* say it. "BUT they're old or have underlying conditions ".... That's what you're farting at.

Some seem to be happy to screw over the younger generation and throw them under the buses.... but that’s ok though.... fuck em eh?!?!

Increasingly agreed to agree with you.

but that’s ok though.... fuck em eh?!?!

🙄 not ok at all.

Agree with you OP 100%

Some seem to be happy to screw over the younger generation and throw them under the buses.... but that’s ok though.... fuck em eh?!?!

And some people seem to be happy to throw the older generation under the bus. The older generation who did fight in WW2 who did fight for your right to have an opinions, equal opportunities and the NHS that I am sure you happily use. So while you may see the older generation as being no longer "useful" to the younger generation they are still people and therefore we should all be willing to make sacrifices to help ensure they do not die from something that could have been avoided.

How old is old?

I’d say those above retirement age right now. Easy to say shut down society when you’ve feck all to lose innit?

@TableFlowerss Exactly. Are the old going to pay some kind of altruistic windfall tax to pay for all this? They should be doing imo, as a lot o

You're lovely. Would you just pay the tax over a certain age?

Would people with chronic conditions have to pay too?

Is "old" actually a subtle shorthand when really "old, disabled and/or vulnerable" is meant?

[quote MummyPop00]@TableFlowerss Exactly. Are the old going to pay some kind of altruistic windfall tax to pay for all this? They should be doing imo, as a lot of them are sitting on plenty of equity.

I mean, the young haven’t been shat on enough have they? Country in colossal debt, no matter for the oldies, they’ll only be around for another decade or so anyway.

‘Oh but every new generation pays for the generations preceding them yadda yadda’

Well, no generation has decided to completely shut down society for a pandemic before have they?[/quote]
You’re so right. It’s so so sad for the younger generation, folk losing they’re jobs left right and centre, kids with MH problems, cancer screenings being cancelled, other medical issues being missed because we aren’t allowed to get to doctors.... the list goes on.

Fuck everything though, nothing else matters unless it’s covid related!!!

And some people think that if we throw half of society under a bus the other half will find themselves under the bus that is right behind.

Reading this I don’t think people are very good at visualising large numbers in the millions. Like what an extra few hundred thousand people suddenly hospitalised would look like. It simply can’t happen so we have to take steps to reduce those numbers.

Ive not give it much thought tbh but windfall tax on property or lowering of Inheritance Tax thresholds may be goers.

@ForTheLoveOfSleep

Some seem to be happy to screw over the younger generation and throw them under the buses.... but that’s ok though.... fuck em eh?!?!

And some people seem to be happy to throw the older generation under the bus. The older generation who did fight in WW2 who did fight for your right to have an opinions, equal opportunities and the NHS that I am sure you happily use. So while you may see the older generation as being no longer "useful" to the younger generation they are still people and therefore we should all be willing to make sacrifices to help ensure they do not die from something that could have been avoided.

What about the younger ones? Don’t they matter? Can’t you see the irony in your posts?

@Blownaway1

There wouldn’t be hundreds of thousands of people hospitalised if the individuals at risk of needing treatment were shielded.

The vast, vast majority of people are not at risk of requiring hospital treatment.

How the fuck do I shield when I have to travel to the hospital every other week for my high risk pregnancy? I see 8 people there every time so I need them to be kept safe too.