Will you vaccinate against Covid?

[DelilahfromDevon]

Let me start by saying I’ve never been an anti vaxxer and have vaccinated my family in the usual way. Also vaccinated them against chicken pox. They get vaccinated against the flu at school but I’ve never been vaccinated myself with the exception of the pregnancy years when it’s recommended.

But I am undecided vaccinating against Covid. Firstly due to unknown side effects of a vaccination that’s being rushed through. Secondly, only 370 people under 60 without medical conditions have died from Covid. No children. (Source Daily Telegraph). Most people who catch it don’t die and at worst have minor symptoms.

If I do decide to vaccinate it will purely be for the greater good of the elderly and those who are immunocompromised rather than because I think/am concerned I’m going to get it myself.
Curious as to what other people’s thoughts on it are?

Corronovirus like the flu mutates every year

Aside from the obvious that it hasn't even been around that long, Coronaviruses do not mutate readily, in contrast to influenza viruses. Coronaviruses have an inbuilt 'spell checker' and so mutation occurs slowly. At least that's a plus for vaccine manufacturers!

@Boredbumhead

Corronovirus like the flu mutates every year. It would mean we would need boosters and repeat vaccines like we do with the flu.

We have no idea about this. You’re making stuff up.

Lots of details on Covid-19 vaccine candidates in this Twitter thread by an expert on viruses and vaccines (a Professor at the Department of Microbiology Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai).
mobile.twitter.com/florian_krammer/status/1310372301314101250

Vaccines generally take years to come to market but they say they can get Covid out in a year?

A lot of it is to do with funding/costs and risk. As explained in the twitter thread above.

Now, the question is, doesn't this compromise safety? Not really. Vaccine development is slow because it needs to be de-risked. You only go to the next step if you think the risk of failure - which will costs lots of money - is low. For SARS-CoV-2 money doesn't matter.

Everything is done at economic risk - and that speeds things up. No sane vaccine developer would do this in 'peace time'.
mobile.twitter.com/florian_krammer/status/1310373481817804800

The FDA has not yet authorised the Oxford/Astrazaneca trial to continue in the US. That shows that how safe the trials/vaccines are may be subjective. If experts can't agree, then it's reasonable for us laypeople to show scepticism.

Another thing is that there are motives to speed things up beyond what is safe, despite some people being unwilling to acknowledge that. Both Russia and China have reportedly begun administering vaccines that haven't even undergone phase 3 trials. Before anyone starts on about China and Russia being nutjob dictatorships, even Trump in the US has tried to politicise the process in attempts to have a vaccine ready before the election. I know he's basically failed with that, but the fact is he tried.

I think it's logical for people to be wary. The fact that so much funding has been provided and so quickly does obviously factor into how the process has been so much faster than normal, but it clearly isn't the ONLY possible explanation.

@Notrightbutok

As I work in a school it will probably be mandatory. I would have reservations about it being so new. All my children have had the childhood immunisations and boosters but I declined the HPV jab for my 2 daughters.

Can I ask why?? Please please get your girls vaccinated against HPV is so important!!

I will have the vaccine.

Video summarising latest information about Covid vaccines:

Will be last in line I suspect as young and not high risk. But yeah I don't see why not.

I suspect its going to be one thats renewed each year though, given they reckon immunity is not long term. So I kind of figure, its going to be way too expensive to vaccinate the world each year, so I think it will end up being high risk people only, kind of like the flu one now. And annually, rather than a one off.

@MadameBlobby

It was found to have a 0.002% risk of inducing narcolepsy in under-20s (on top of the naturally occurring 0.05% risk)

Thank you. Doesn’t seem like that big a risk?

Yes, I agree.

I know some people see it as proof that vaccines can be harmful, but for me it shows the opposite - that for such a tiny risk it was withdrawn from that age group.

Recent review in Nature:

www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2798-3

Yes!!

apple.news/AhgzuzBtdQwSMdTw7YkkqeA

Hope this is true

@Bickles
I used to work for the charity that’s supporting one of the women that’s ended up with this very distressing condition
www.nytimes.com/2020/09/19/health/astrazeneca-vaccine-safety-blueprints.html