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Will you vaccinate against Covid?

338 replies

DelilahfromDevon · 19/09/2020 09:44

Let me start by saying I’ve never been an anti vaxxer and have vaccinated my family in the usual way. Also vaccinated them against chicken pox. They get vaccinated against the flu at school but I’ve never been vaccinated myself with the exception of the pregnancy years when it’s recommended.

But I am undecided vaccinating against Covid. Firstly due to unknown side effects of a vaccination that’s being rushed through. Secondly, only 370 people under 60 without medical conditions have died from Covid. No children. (Source Daily Telegraph). Most people who catch it don’t die and at worst have minor symptoms.

If I do decide to vaccinate it will purely be for the greater good of the elderly and those who are immunocompromised rather than because I think/am concerned I’m going to get it myself.
Curious as to what other people’s thoughts on it are?

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Parker231 · 27/09/2020 17:56

If people aren’t vaccinated against Covid the death rate will continue to rise and we will remain under restrictions and lockdowns, businesses failing, school classes closing down due to new cases.

loulouljh · 27/09/2020 17:58

Probably not..

Parker231 · 27/09/2020 18:03

Taking the comments on this thread and the lack of willingness to have the vaccine when it’s released, it looks like Covid is going to be around for a long time together with all the restrictions on our lives.

winetime89 · 27/09/2020 18:07

No not a chance.
I don't know many people who have said they will have it either
The swine flu vaccine caused narcolepsy in young adults. That's there lives ruined. Who knows what the side effects of this one could cause...

Nyclair · 27/09/2020 18:08

[quote Nyclair]@Parker231, I think it would be smart of people to wait especially since the vaccine is newsroom and being rushed through. Most vaccines take years to come to market but somehow this one will be available in a year (or fo they say). fr unproven[/quote]
Sorry, I accidentally hit post before proofreading the finishing! I think it would be smart for people to wait especially since the vaccine is new and being rushed to market.
Also I'm low risk, work from home and follow all rules and restrictions, regardless of how limiting they are. I feel comfortable with all of this, the vaccine just doesn't sit comfortably with me.
Finally, I dont think the vaccine is a 'cure all solution. We are already seeing different strains/mutations. For instance the flu jab doesn't cover you for all strains of the flu.

Straven123 · 27/09/2020 18:11

If people refuse vaccinations then it's up to them - I can't see restrictions being enforced if people risk catching it as they don't want to be vaccinated.

MadameBlobby · 27/09/2020 18:17

@Parker231

I would put children towards the end of the priority as they appear have minimal risk of becoming seriously ill from Covid. The elderly and those looking after them are a priority.
Yes, I was thinking more about reducing the overall numbers and chains of transmission that way. Not that I think school kids need protecting more from it. Also I know a lot of vaccines aren’t that effective in old people so wondered if giving it to a large number of the population might help. PP makes a good point as to the ethics of that Tho
bumbleymummy · 27/09/2020 18:18

@Parker231 No, we won’t. The first lockdown was to make sure the nhs wasn’t overwhelmed. This mini one is because cases are rising again but (so far) hospitalisations are not so it probably won’t be for too long. Fatality rate is lower because we are testing more people in the community with mild cases rather than all the severe cases that ended up in hospital at the start. And that still doesn’t factor in the asymptomatic cases which some studies have shown to be up to 80% of cases.

Egghead68 · 27/09/2020 18:42

[quote bumbleymummy]@Egghead68 actually I think it’s more likely that we’ll just learn to live with the virus. In the same way as we have done for all the viruses that came before. We know a lot more about it now and it isn’t anywhere near as deadly as originally thought. The original point of the lockdown was to stop the nhs from being overwhelmed, not to stop people from ever getting it. If the recent increase in cases doesn’t result in a high number of complications requiring hospital admission then lockdowns won’t be necessary in the future - we’ll know that the nhs can cope. I think people may have lost sight of this a bit.[/quote]
We’ve learnt to live with other viruses by having vaccinations (or in the case of HIV condoms and effective treatments).

There aren’t many hospital admissions yet from this surge as it’s too early but they are increasing.

TheLastStarfighter · 27/09/2020 18:49

Yes definitely. It’s not been “rushed”, it’s been fast-tracked by doing away with all of the wait-for-funding stages.

I would love society to get back to normal and the economy to get back on track, so of course I would take the vaccine.

dementedma · 27/09/2020 18:55

No. I'll wait a few years to see if side effects appear

Parker231 · 27/09/2020 18:58

Will you maintain social distancing and mask wearing for a few years ?

MadameBlobby · 27/09/2020 19:07

@Parker231

Will you maintain social distancing and mask wearing for a few years ?
Where would we be if everyone waited a few years?

I wonder how many of the people saying they wouldn’t have it til everyone else has have berated others for being “selfish” during the pandemic?

SqidgeBum · 27/09/2020 19:10

@Parker231

Will you maintain social distancing and mask wearing for a few years ?
I am pretty sure we are all going to have to do that anyway. The vaccine wont be 100% effective, and it won't be done overnight. It will take a long time to vaccinate the entire population, and for us to even know if the vaccine works on everyone. You may be getting a vaccine and having no idea how much immunity you have, or if you just become asymptomatic and still able to infect others around you, so masks and SD will probably be a part of society for a long time.

A vaccine wont be a fast fix.

ChodeOfChodeBall · 27/09/2020 19:18

@WiseUpJanetWeiss

Chode You said you’d rather develop natural immunity, which surely means you’d rather get Covid than have the vaccine. Seems an odd choice, that’s all.
Ah, yes. I see what you mean.

I didn't phrase it very well. Though I think, on balance, I would probably go for getting natural immunity (by catching it) than having a vaccination. I have done nothing special to stop myself from catching Covid since March. I have always washed my hands when I come in from outside, public transport etc, and before and after touching food. I've done nothing different at all. I've paid for things with money rather than cards; I've picked stuff up off the floor; I've eaten a sandwich in the car without "sanitising" my hands; I've not bought anti-bac stuff; I've not wiped shopping; I've been to friends' houses; I've had my teenagers' friends here; I've eaten out; I've basically ignored everything except social distancing and masks - but that's because I'm not quite enough of a dick to inflict my own done-careishness on random members of the public.

That said: if I were immuno-compromised, say, and would be likely to die of Covid, I'd opt for the vaccination. Though if I were an immuno-compromised 90 yr old, I wouldn't, on the grounds that something's got to kill me at some point, so it might as well be Covid (doesn't mean everyone should think that, or that I'm wishing death on all old people: just the way I would think about myself).

And if, as a PP mentions as a 'what if', 60% of the population having the vaccination meant that we could be released from this Covid Hell and get on with our lives properly, I'd have it then, too.

I'm absolutely not an anti-Vaxxer. Just have a bit of a preference not to vaccinate unless it's absolutely necessary.

Codexdivinchi · 27/09/2020 19:22

I’m going to wait and see what happens to all you guinea pigs first Grin

I really wouldn’t want what happened with the swine flu vaccine to happen to my kids... they are still paying out for that!

GinJeanie · 27/09/2020 19:25

@Codexdivinchi - have a well-deserved Biscuit

MadameBlobby · 27/09/2020 19:25

What happened with the swine flu vaccine? My children both had that as toddlers and were absolutely fine.

WiseUpJanetWeiss · 27/09/2020 19:28

@Parker231

Taking the comments on this thread and the lack of willingness to have the vaccine when it’s released, it looks like Covid is going to be around for a long time together with all the restrictions on our lives.
This. It’s unbelievable.
bumbleymummy · 27/09/2020 19:31

@Egghead68 There are plenty of viruses that we don’t have vaccinations for. The increase in cases started well over a month ago, so accounting for the delay, and we have not seen anywhere near the same number of hospitalisations.

TheLastStarfighter · 27/09/2020 19:33

@MadameBlobby

What happened with the swine flu vaccine? My children both had that as toddlers and were absolutely fine.
It was found to have a 0.002% risk of inducing narcolepsy in under-20s (on top of the naturally occurring 0.05% risk).
winetime89 · 27/09/2020 19:34

@MadameBlobby

What happened with the swine flu vaccine? My children both had that as toddlers and were absolutely fine.
It caused narcolepsy in teenagers: young adults. they stopped giving it to children as a result
Nyclair · 27/09/2020 19:34

@SqidgeBum, 100%
Everyone is talking like the vaccine is a cure. That once it's out we'll get back to pre-covid life immediately. It will take years for life to return to that, if at all.

bumblingbovine49 · 27/09/2020 19:35

That seems an Incredibly low increase in an already very low risk to me

moominmomma1234 · 27/09/2020 19:37

The Uk vaccine is not going to be given to under 18s anyway

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