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"It is, alas, a fact of the disease that it is readily transmissible between children and adults"

248 replies

noblegiraffe · 16/09/2020 16:23

Says our PM.

So can all those people who spent the entire summer telling teachers that their worries about returning to school without any mitigation measures that it was FINE because children didn't spread it please now start campaigning for mitigation measures in schools because it appears that people's lives are being put at risk.

twitter.com/mikercameron/status/1306246353379569665?s=21

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MarshaBradyo · 16/09/2020 20:41

@VanGoghsDog

So people truly believed you could get it from a bat, but not from a human child?

I guess this is the result of decades of underfunding of the education sector.

There’s no point in just believing stuff it’s better to read some science.

Viral load can be high but there’s debate around transmission with low level symptoms.

Piggywaspushed · 16/09/2020 20:42

Did the private school fund your NPQSL and CTeach? Surely you have that in both schools? It doesn't suddenly vanish?

I have CTeach status too. You just pay. Nothing to do with skill or ability!

No school - private or otherwise- I know of insists or asks that a teacher has NPQSL to teach in a classroom. That is presumably something you wanted to do.

Splendidseptember · 16/09/2020 20:42

You don't need blended learning if dc are being taught as normal over the Internet,.

IloveJKRowling · 16/09/2020 20:43

But this 'where possible' is government advice. In June it was possible to socially distance because they were fewer pupils in schools; now it largely isn't.

My DD's school had them all in, every year. With extra money and extra TAs.

What schools need is money.

IloveJKRowling · 16/09/2020 20:44

We haven't had massive outbreaks in Scottish schools, but the test and trace hadn't fallen over then either. So cases were identified and groups isolated.

That is not happening in England now. No-one can get a test.

Piggywaspushed · 16/09/2020 20:45

Why is hard of thinking really unpleasant? It's a mild ,usually flippant criticism.

I wasn't aware that on MN teachers needed to abide by a higher moral code or have their language policed more than someone who is - say- an accountant. Your word disappointing speaks volumes.

Pomegranatepompom · 16/09/2020 20:46

It’s sneery. Disappointing as I generally see quite nuanced arguments.

Piggywaspushed · 16/09/2020 20:47

Also... not convinced it was a teacher who used hard of thinking??

SaltyAndFresh · 16/09/2020 20:49

@Pomegranatepompom

The phrase ‘hard of thinking’ is really unpleasant. Disappointing that some teachers are using it.
Grin
MarshaBradyo · 16/09/2020 20:53

@pshek86

Scottish schools have been back for weeks and we have had no outbreaks in school. Few classes closed due to cases but have been been in the community 🤷🏻‍♀️. Blended learning is catastrophic!!!! How are working parents meant to hold down a full time job and home school. It's not possible.
This is good.

So solution is testing not part time.

SaltyAndFresh · 16/09/2020 20:54

Honestly, you'd have a hairy baby if you knew some of the more colourful turns of phrase lurking in my head.

SaltyAndFresh · 16/09/2020 20:57

Seems odd that you'd expect a nuanced argument in response to that particular poster's continued inability to conceive of a solution beyond schools fully open so parents can work or schools closed and the economy will collapse.

morethanmeetstheeye · 16/09/2020 20:58

@Piggywaspushed

Did the private school fund your NPQSL and CTeach? Surely you have that in both schools? It doesn't suddenly vanish?

I have CTeach status too. You just pay. Nothing to do with skill or ability!

No school - private or otherwise- I know of insists or asks that a teacher has NPQSL to teach in a classroom. That is presumably something you wanted to do.

The state school I previously worked in part funded my NPQSL (I was their Deputy ahead). I have had the CTeach status due to completing the programme where you have to do the research/show excellence in teaching. At the school I am at, they generally only employ people who have higher level qualifications and to keep on furthering themselves professionally.
morethanmeetstheeye · 16/09/2020 20:59

You pay to be a charter teacher. You have to complete the Chartered Teacher course and prove yourself to gain full chartered teacher status. It sounds like you are an MCCT (member) and not a CTeach

noblegiraffe · 16/09/2020 21:00

Have you also got a bronze swimming certificate?

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morethanmeetstheeye · 16/09/2020 21:01

@noblegiraffe

I find the 'lazy private school teacher' comments insulting and displaying a lack of awareness of what we do.

That was the whole point of them. Did you miss that?

I must have! Been a fecking long day!
morethanmeetstheeye · 16/09/2020 21:03

@noblegiraffe

Have you also got a bronze swimming certificate?
Grin No. shit at that! I'll climb down off my high horse. Clearly I'm tired and pissed off! Had a quite frankly awful day with kids having time be sent home left right and centre after being dosed up on Calpol and sent in.
Piggywaspushed · 16/09/2020 21:11

Genuinely more that is not a feature of all private schools. That's like saying 'there are no cases in my school, therefore there are no cases.' Many private schools like highly qualified staff,many aren't bothered, often because of time off needed.
I am a CTeach. I forgot about the whistles and bells. All I seem to get out of it is a magazine!

pshek86 · 16/09/2020 21:16

@Splendidseptember

You don't need blended learning if dc are being taught as normal over the Internet,.
And how do you keep a 6 year old engaged with a laptop all day while trying to take calls and actual do your job which pays the bills and keeps a roof over your head!!!! I'm sorry but people need to learn to live with this. There is 53 people in hospital in Scotland!!! I have more chance being in a road traffic accident than being killed my this. And why on earth should my children suffer....not being at school is a lot of their mental health to handle!!! A trashed economy is far more dangerous than a virus which everyone has been lying about for months. No one can get any numbers correct. Threads like this is what gives the government the confidence that parents will accept part time schooling!!!!
notevenat20 · 16/09/2020 21:18

The testing problem is brand new and hopefully will pass soon. There seems to have been a huge spike in demand for testing. You can see this from this graph which shows the number of days to get test results. Most were under 2 days until very recently. (d2 means two days.)

"It is, alas, a fact of the disease that it is readily transmissible between children and adults"
MarshaBradyo · 16/09/2020 21:19

@Splendidseptember

You don't need blended learning if dc are being taught as normal over the Internet,.
Via the internet is a poor substitution for in class learning.
notevenat20 · 16/09/2020 21:21

It really upsets me how MN posters seem to be ignoring the women's rights disaster of not having full time at-school schooling. It's almost like everyone has forgotten the basic fights that feminism has won.

sproutsandparsnips · 16/09/2020 21:25

I am very worried about not being able to get a test and timely results for my child should I need it. But I am wondering who is actually getting the tests. Surely somebody must be having the tests? It can't be that no one is able to get a test?
Also I have long thought that cough is too non specific to Covid to be a discriminator. Loss of taste or smell in adults is far more specific. I guess if you don't test anyone with just a cough with coryzal symptoms you will miss some but maybe it would be better to just test those with an isolated cough or cough and fever? Just my musings.....

Shitfuckoh · 16/09/2020 21:25

I love some of the comments school threads get.

Teachers are told they aren't special so shouldn't expect special treatment.

Then they are told they're so special they can't type, anonymously, things like ''hard of thinking''.

Make your minds up & stop doing a Boris.

noblegiraffe · 16/09/2020 21:25

Had a quite frankly awful day with kids having time be sent home left right and centre after being dosed up on Calpol and sent in

Maybe private not that different to state... look after yourself, teaching is a tough job at the moment.

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