Should we have a full lockdown briefly now to slow down rises

[Worriedmum999]

Just musing really. Would it be better to have a few weeks of full lockdown now while furlough is still ongoing rather than needing to do one in a month or so as an emergency when 1000 people are dying every day, having to extend furlough etc.

If it’s planned then people can prep for it. Make it a really strict one. Have minimum shops open for emergencies with strict distancing. School well prepared to teach online for 2 weeks.

Might this give us the time to sort the testing backlog and increase them as promised? Give everyone the short sharp shock they need to take distancing/masks seriously again then reopen with clearer rules

I am not convinced that worriedmum999 is really a "worried" "mum" at all.

Nope I still dont think a full or national lockdown is the way forward

The whole country isnt doubling at 6/7 days that is an average. Some areas are quicker than others. Others are stable.

But that said I dont think the current is a full lockdown. it will be a raft of restrictions on us that enables school and businesses to run as much as possible

I thought OP wanted full lockdown with nothing open, this won’t be full lockdown just a few things shut and no socialising and why is OP laughing

Probably best to shut offlicences....more deaths from alcohol than CV! We definitely should not be doing this...

All lock down does is delay the spread...back again when opened up.... why?
It is here lock down is prolonging the problem. Let it run through the young and fit and get vulnerable away....or just keep locking down and screw the country up

Keep doing lock and delay the spread...it will eventually run through the population....quickly or slowly

@Waxonwaxoff0

Why would people have egg on their faces? If there is a lockdown, it won't work and it will just plunge more people into poverty.

The failure to to halt the spread of Covid is what might plunge people into poverty. It's what some of us have been trying to point out since the start. We said in January/February, and again in May/June, how proper measures would mean a quicker return to normality and a better economic recovery. Dragging it all out is the problem.

The Bank of England has issued a warning about the economic impact of an increase in coronavirus cases. Ignoring a virus doesn't make it go away.

www.ft.com/content/4929894d-6e7e-4477-a542-b8ce5c122685

Yes exactly @Sheepandcow PROPER MEASURES

a national lockdown isnt a proper measure it is the sign of a government that hasnt got a clue.

I was reading about London going into lockdown - my borough has a incident rate of 9.3 per 100000 why on earth do I e

We need an effective plan and this would not be it

As an aside I look at the Australian rates per 100k and it was way higher than I thought it would be

covidlive.com.au/states-and-territories

@Quartz2208 An article in the Evening Standard explains why London needs to lockdown as a whole. As I've been saying, it's a very interlinked city.

I agree a lockdown, particularly in London, with the major international airports, is pointless...Without border restrictions. We need to stop and then contain the spread. For any lockdown to work, we'd need to continue border restrictions for a period after lockdown eases.

Most Australians are living pretty normal lives. My family are. The only cases are returning travellers. They're identified and quarantined. The exception is Melbourne, where the tiny (by our standards) outbreak is being tackled effectively. Strict measures to stop the spread. Therefore nipping it in the bud. I can guarantee they will be back to normal (excepting a successful sabotage attempt) a long time before we can even start to think about it.

Yeah it used to be by commuting. Not so much anymore though. Hence why my area is pretty low - lots of wfh and very little going into

See I thought Australia was tiny too but the link I gave had the numbers as actually pretty large per 100k

This is Victoria

www.dhhs.vic.gov.au/coronavirus-testing-data-local-government-area

London ranges between 9 to 32.5

@Carycy

It’s definitely worth a consideration. But once we do it there will be multiple excuses to stay in it. I think maybe during October half term would be a good idea.

One week won't make a blind bit of difference

Thanks to the testing system failure, we don't know the true number of cases in London (or anywhere in the UK).

Many schoolchildren travel to school (across boroughs) on public transport in London, and 500,000 students are due to arrive in the coming weeks.

It's quieter than usual but still busy. Lots of people can't wfh. Hospital staff, teachers and other school staff, delivery drivers, postal workers, shop, bar, restaurant, and pub staff, builders, plumbers, electricians, social care workers, etc.

Yes Melbourne will make Victoria's figures look relatively high (still tiny compared to us). But Victoria is tackling their outbreak. Their strict measures mean things will be back to normal there far sooner than we can dream of. Soon they'll be like the rest of Australia. Melbourne happened because of a quarantine cockup. They've learned their lesson and won't bugger it up again (barring any acts of sabotage).