Grandparent drop offs rule of 6

[bunnyonthemantle]

My in-laws pick up and drop off my stepdaughter on a Tuesday. They usually come in for a while and sometimes have dinner with us. There are 5 of us in the household once dh comes back from work so with the in-laws that's 7. Dh is saying if they leave when he arrives that this is ok. I'm not sure. Im also having a baby soon so that would take us to 8. Do we need to stop grandparents from coming in? It seems a bit rude because they travel an hour to do this pick up and drop off for dh

I hate the law too, I’d much rather everything was ended now and everyone was left to live with the virus. But this isn’t happening and if people continue to break the rules it will go on for so much longer and the government with impose and enforce stricter rules.

This makes no sense whatsoever. You’d prefer everyone was left to live with the virus without restrictions, but you also see that restrictions will go on longer if people don’t adhere to them? No wonder we’re fucked!

The incidence in Bolton did go down, and was lower than surrounding areas until extremely recently. That's why when GM went into the most recent local lockdown, there was pressure to remove Bolton from the restrictions. This is a superspreader incident based around pubs.

@Racoonworld I don’t think you’ve understood me. I am not against every Covid restriction. I am, however, strongly against a law which prevents many families from seeing each other. We have a duty to challenge any laws which are unreasonable...otherwise, where will this end...

My DH has just told me children under 12 don't count. Is that true?

@whattodo2019

My DH has just told me children under 12 don't count. Is that true?

They count in England but not in Wales

@Dowser

Good lord..are people really going to stick to this Morris dance of a life. Seriously? Don’t you think we’ve all suffered enough and call time on the bull shit.

Exactly

@whattodo2019

My DH has just told me children under 12 don't count. Is that true?

They also don't count in Scotland. Might just be in England that they do count

There's always been exceptions in place for care and child contact arrangements, as this falls into this area I would suggest that them having a drink before heading back is perfectly reasonable. Having a full meal whilst I think it's the courteous thing to do is not legal as it's nothing to do with facilitating child handover, it's socialising. That said i would still do it occasionally, the laws are blunt and don't reflect the real world

@whattodo2019

My DH has just told me children under 12 don't count. Is that true?

Depends where you are. In Scotland and Wales they don’t count, in England they do.

As this ridculous piece of law contravenes many legal "safe" forms of gatherings (e.g.meeting a person from 5 other households in a pub) and deprives people of their right to a family life, it deserves to be criticised and ignored.

You've already connected households and potentially risked virus transmission anyway. One extra family member and a new baby make minimal difference to the risk of spread. There are more hazards to human wellbeing than just Covid 19 including lonliness and depression.

It might all change by next week anyway: www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/call-to-exclude-children-from-governments-new-rule-of-six-nb32kgzzr

[quote ToManderleyAgain]It might all change by next week anyway: www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/call-to-exclude-children-from-governments-new-rule-of-six-nb32kgzzr[/quote]
I hope so, would make my life a bit easier over winter!

What a load of fucking nonsense honestly. Meanwhile, 15 year olds are just wondering around schools without masks on and intermingling 300 at a time. Between this and not following its treaty obligations, the UK is looking like a train crash right now.

Try living in a local lockdown area - we haven’t been allowed to have grandparents into the house for 7 weeks now despite the fact that there are barely any cases for miles around...we dream of being allowed to meet in groups of 6!

@Pluckedpencil

What a load of fucking nonsense honestly. Meanwhile, 15 year olds are just wondering around schools without masks on and intermingling 300 at a time. Between this and not following its treaty obligations, the UK is looking like a train crash right now.

Education of children - and 15 year olds are children - is viewed as more important than you seeing your parents, their grandparents, at home.

I think as long as there are not more than 6 people in your house at the same time its fine, really they should leave when DH gets home but honestly if I was in your shoes I wouldnt worry too much about it, maybe not stay for dinner but perhaps a quick cuppa and a chat ?
I don't quite see the scientific logic behind rules in situations like this and you never know there might be small print which allows it (which only Boris and Dominic know about!)