People are just going to not bother getting tested

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If they can’t get a test, surely people will think sod it and not bother.

I’m so angry with the government for not sorting their act out. It’s about time they were held accountable. In any other profession they’d have been sacked a long time ago for utter incompetence.

This is before you take into account all the people who can’t afford to self isolate.

If government want people to do this they need to pay them full pay.

AIBU?

@Trackandtrace

Ffs those planning to just go back to work, send kids back without a negative test or completing isolation period. This is why my children havent returned to school because you cant teust others to do the right thing. After shielding for 5 months we were told school would be safe for our shielded child thank god we ignored that 650 odd schools with known infections and god knows how many without positive tests and carryying on as normal

But what are people supposed to do if being off means losing their job? If they are on zero hours contract, or a temp or only SSP. I understand you putting your chikdren first, but they have to put theirs first.

@JacobReesMogadishu but then cases will spread and restaurants will close again. She'd be shooting herself in the foot. People need to look at the bigger picture.

If the restaurant closes and she looses her job, she can benefits. You can’t claim them if you are off work waiting to get a test and isolating until you get the results.

Some of those who cant afford to isolate because they are on low pay and/or zero hours will be the key workers y"all were clapping for.

@HeIenaDove

Some of those who cant afford to isolate because they are on low pay and/or zero hours will be the key workers y"all were clapping for.

Shush, don't say inconvenient things!

Theirs plenty of evidence of ppl ordering tests who should not be.
An extra 37500 tests were used in the first 2 weeks when Scottish children went back to school. 37 were positive.

There's also evidence that only 1/4 of ppl self isolate when necessary.

What if you get tested and your positive? Do the govt still have to pay your 10 day isolation period.

UK is testing more than almost anyone else in Europe.

Even if thats true ppl on a low income will still need to be paid to stay home.

100% agree.

Daughter has a cold with a cough. I've been trying since Wednesday to get a test with no success. She isn't missing school because this government is too incompetent to organise enough tests. She's missed enough school as it is.

If tests were available I absolutely would get us all tested, and will keep trying to arrange tests.

I am someone who wears a mask, socially distance, don't meet in groups and no holiday so hate not being able to get a test.

@lljkk

UK is testing more than almost anyone else in Europe.

I'm not sure what your point is here.

You make it sound like more tests = good thing because government is taking it more seriously and that we are monitoring our population better.

Are you suggesting that too many people are requesting tests unnecessarily?

Or does it mean we have a bigger covid-19 problem than everywhere else and we need to be testing more? And by the sound of it we really aren't testing as much as we need even though we are testing more than everyone else.

@Torvean32

Theirs plenty of evidence of ppl ordering tests who should not be. An extra 37500 tests were used in the first 2 weeks when Scottish children went back to school. 37 were positive.

There's also evidence that only 1/4 of ppl self isolate when necessary.

What if you get tested and your positive? Do the govt still have to pay your 10 day isolation period.

Where do you get those figures from? it was reported on the bbc that 49 children in Scotland tested positive in the first week that they returned.

If a child has symptoms - a cough or a raised temp which is a pretty regular occurrence at this time of year they are supposed to get a test.

@Stellaris22

100% agree.

Daughter has a cold with a cough. I've been trying since Wednesday to get a test with no success. She isn't missing school because this government is too incompetent to organise enough tests. She's missed enough school as it is.

If tests were available I absolutely would get us all tested, and will keep trying to arrange tests.

I am someone who wears a mask, socially distance, don't meet in groups and no holiday so hate not being able to get a test.

What sort of cough though?

If a child has symptoms - a cough or a raised temp which is a pretty regular occurrence at this time of year they are supposed to get a test.

It’s CONTINUOUS cough. Not any cough.

A cold/asthma cough. I have cough variant asthma and her cough is similar to mine. It's just the cough is a persistent and continuous cough when we get it so I assume similar to a covid cough.

It also doesn't help that tests are being used for those who aren't even wanting one. Apparently if you try to book a test for a child it makes you book one for the accompanying adult too, even if just the child has symptoms. Given the number of tests probably being applied for for children due to school return, that's a whole lot of tests being used up.

@BessMarvin

It also doesn't help that tests are being used for those who aren't even wanting one. Apparently if you try to book a test for a child it makes you book one for the accompanying adult too, even if just the child has symptoms. Given the number of tests probably being applied for for children due to school return, that's a whole lot of tests being used up.

I went for a test months ago. DH drove as I was ill. They ‘encouraged’ him to have one too even though he had no symptoms and had not booked one.

I appreciate that people are saying only have a test if you have symptoms and I appreciate why. However, I am living near to a high numbers area and I keep getting a message on FB saying that if we are ill get a test. Not if you have one of the symptoms.

@Shamrocksunshine

I’ve been ill for days with all the symptoms. I’ve tried for three days straight to get a test, I’ve given up now. I’m feeling brighter today so I’ll be back at work (education) tomorrow.

I’m not self isolating when I have no idea if I have it or not.

If you've had all the symptoms for 3 days then do the honourable thing. You work in education ffs! Selfish behaviour like this will result in blood on your hands.... Except of course it won't be your loved one....

My teen dd has had a bad cold, fatigue and sporadic cough for a week. I’ve not been able to get her tested and I guess “sporadic” isn’t “persistent”. She is refusing to stay at home and I don’t blame her. I’ve been trying to get a test every day.

@BessMarvin And I bet you that’s where a lot of this 25% of people who are booking tests without symptoms (according to Matt Hancock) are coming from - not irresponsibility, but shitty site design.

It’s a fucking joke.

Selfish behaviour like this will result in blood on your hands.... Except of course it won't be your loved one....

Yet again another post from a place of privilege. Will you be paying the bills ot putting food on the table for those who have tried to do the right thing but have been left unable to get a test?

It's simply not reasonable to expect people to get into debt, lose their jobs or go hungry when they have tried to do whats morally right. Let's leave the blame game soley to those who deserve blame, the government.

Selfish behaviour like this will result in blood on your hands.... Except of course it won't be your loved one....

People making comments like this will have blood on their hands... Except it won't of course be your loved ones who are evidently privileged enough to afford 14 days off EVERY time a member of the household gets a cold. Unemployment leads to worse life outcomes, increase in health issues including mental, not having a home impacts on children's education. That's not to mention the impact it has on buisness. If I could run my buisness without staff for an unending amount of 14 days do you think that maybe I'd pay myself their wages?
The fault lies with the government, a ferret could have predicted that the need for tests would increase when children returned to school for the autumn term.

*Yet again another post from a place of privilege. Will you be paying the bills ot putting food on the table for those who have tried to do the right thing but have been left unable to get a test?

It's simply not reasonable to expect people to get into debt, lose their jobs or go hungry when they have tried to do whats morally right. Let's leave the blame game soley to those who deserve blame, the government.*

This. There are a huge amount of MN who seem willing and (financially able) to feel morally superior and happily say they will "bunk down" for the winter so they can do the right thing and protect other people.
IRL most people wont be able to afford to take an unlimited number of 2 week periods off work when they might have coronavirus as well as when their child is sent home to isolate because someone in their year has it and they have been with someone else who has tested positive.

Shamrocksunshine I can't believe you'd be that irresponsible and return to work today. If you do have Covid, you risk passing it onto at least one year bubble of pupils and staff. You'll get full pay for another couple of days. Our school would turn you away, so hopefully you won't get through the door.

It's going to stop people who dont have all the symptoms trying for days on end ( eg temp but no cough or anything else) which isnt good as not everyone gets all the symptoms.

It's a mess. If my child just had a temp and cold symptoms and I was chasing a test, my dh couldn't have the time off until we actually booked a test or he would be labelled a skiver, but if we did eventually get a test and it was positive, and he boss knew we was trying for days and dh was working in that time, he would be up for disciplinary.

Not sure how you can win except keep the individual home, other people go about their life and keep your mouth shut for some people