In all honesty. Do you think people will follow Mondays rule.. Honest truth

[DidSheReallySayThat20]

Everyone I have spoken to, or seen on SM have said how stupid it is and they will not be following the rule /law.

My dbs manager who owns the workplace. Was due to have a get together at home next sunday for their teens birthday.
They are now doing it at work. ( a garage.)
Has now said by doing it there and ' booking in the relatives cars for a visual inspection /safety check ' whilst waiting they could get together on forecourt spaced out, Because they would be 'customers' and they would be at work. And it's no different to it being random customers just because it's family.
So there would be 2 cars' booked in' one of. Which is a couple., one a family Of 3. Plus their own household of 4 (the teens work there weekends cleaning etc anyway)

Which made me think how silly the rule is. They can't do that in their garden but can on a forecourt (the garage is not on a main road or anything and out the way so unlikely to be seen)

[dicksplash]

I will follow it and have anyway. The only exceptions were holidays with my sibling - we are two families of 4 so 8 of us. We would probably be spending new year together this year so if this rule is still around then it will be a very quiet celebration.

[MarshaBradyo]

@mrsnorrismeow

TBH the more people wang on about the "rules", the more inclination I feel to break them.

The more people wang on about breaking them the more I hope they live in the NE or something.

[Judashascomeintosomemoney]

I think that will not necessarily mean people having massive gatherings but they may have 7 or 8 people instead of 6
Tbh I think the government know this and they think the, arbitrary, figure of six means the majority will at least keep gatherings to 10 or under, whereas if they’d said 10 to start with people would have pushed it to 15/20.

[OpenlyGayExOlympicFencer]

No, there will continue to be widespread non-compliance. It will also create a perverse incentive for gatherings of 6+ that would otherwise have been in parks, pub gardens etc to happen in private homes instead as the chance of being seen is lower.

[Jenasaurus]

I think some will, and some wont, but I expect we will see in the news stories of people that have been fined for ignoring the law and then people may be more compliant. I am torn as a single person with 3 adult children, all with partners, things like Christmas will be a nightmare. I am thinking of telling the 6 of them to meet up and I will stay home with beans on toast (which actually sounds rather nice :) )

[DidSheReallySayThat20]

OK so a mixed view.

So. Let's say 80 % comply. The other 20 % don't. How on earth will the police deal with it.
There are probably 250 houses on my street alone. If 50 were breaking the rules. How will they deal with that can't send police to every house or garden as well as watching the parks etc. Its absolutely bonkers.

Having under 11s not being counted is a great idea. That would make us 3 instead of 6.(plus my dad and sibling as they're out bubble, he's a single father)

[Tootletum]

Makes no difference to me as we've got no contact with anyone else anyway. But means it's also going to be impossible to have any as there are 5 of us. I just want this to be over, and it never will be if no deaths has suddenly become the goal.

[Tootletum]

@DidSheReallySayThat20 how they enforce it is what worries me. These corona marsalls - what powers will they have? At what point are they no longer needed? Are they then maybe redeployed to other enforcement operations?

[OpenlyGayExOlympicFencer]

@DidSheReallySayThat20

OK so a mixed view.

So. Let's say 80 % comply. The other 20 % don't. How on earth will the police deal with it.
There are probably 250 houses on my street alone. If 50 were breaking the rules. How will they deal with that can't send police to every house or garden as well as watching the parks etc. Its absolutely bonkers.

Having under 11s not being counted is a great idea. That would make us 3 instead of 6.(plus my dad and sibling as they're out bubble, he's a single father)

The answer is that they won't deal with most of it.

[WheresMyMilk]

I don’t think there’ll be much enforcement of 8 people in a family home. There simply aren’t the resources and I will be furious if they allocate resources to that when they can’t be arsed to send someone out to a burglary.

But in terms of the large gatherings which are far more egregious and risky breaches, that’s where I think they’ll enforce

[chocolatesaltyballs22]

How does it make any sense to exclude children from the 6? Can they not spread the virus or something??!

For those who are saying sod the rules, I hope your Christmases are right royally fucked by a total lockdown.

[mrsnorrismeow]

The more people wang on about breaking them the more I hope they live in the NE or something.

Sorry, I live in London. HTH.

[TheDailyCarbuncle]

[quote EDSGFC]@TheDailyCarbuncle

Infections are going up at an alarming rate, looking at the picture in other countries it's obvious that without controls in place there will be a second wave, if we aren't already approaching it. I cannot see how arguing for no controls leads anyone to think there will be no impact on health services, the economy or education.

There is no immunity to this disease and that means everyone is at risk of catching it. I was listening to an American doctor talk about this yesterday. In order to achieve herd immunity 4 million Americans would be ill enough to need hospital care and they have 906,000 hospital beds. That doesn't consider the number that would die, the number of ITU beds needed or beds occupied by people with other illnesses. I cannot see any logic in arguing that we can let this run through the population.[/quote]
Who's saying to 'let it run through the population'? People know there's a virus out there and they don't want to catch it, so they are going to take precautions whether they are told to or not, simply because they're not incredibly stupid. The people who built the imperial model admitted that they hadn't taken into account the very basic fact that when people fill ill they stay at home - how fucking stupid is that? People seem to think that unless we have pointless and arbitrary rules everyone will just go out and lick everyone else. Most people know how to avoid getting ill. Many people will still get ill, most of them mildly. Meanwhile life will go on, instead of this ridiculous constantly changing nightmare of rules and restrictions.

[mrsnorrismeow]

For those who are saying sod the rules, I hope your Christmases are right royally fucked by a total lockdown

I'll be spending christmas with my family lockdown or no lockdown.

[BabyLlamaZen]

I will be following it as will those close to me. It concerns me how many might no. Hence horrible second wave. Ugh. 😫

[MrsJonesAndMe]

Personally, yes we'll be sticking to it. General population? Those who have abided throughout will and those who haven't won't.

We have neighbours in our road who have children, grandchildren and great grand children in and out on a daily basis as they did pre Covid, in March when no one was meant to mix AT ALL and every day since.

[MarshaBradyo]

Shame we can’t herd the non compilers together and we can keep our schools open and numbers down elsewhere. Hopefully people with same mindset have ended up in similar locations anyway.

[chocolatesaltyballs22]

Of course you will @mrsnorrismeow. Because you are clearly special, and the rules don't apply to you.

[BabyLlamaZen]

@mrsnorrismeow

For those who are saying sod the rules, I hope your Christmases are right royally fucked by a total lockdown

I'll be spending christmas with my family lockdown or no lockdown.

Yes but the country will still be in shit, whether or not you see your family. Who might be very sick BTW, but maybe they doesn't bother you.

[MarshaBradyo]

@mrsnorrismeow

The more people wang on about breaking them the more I hope they live in the NE or something.

Sorry, I live in London. HTH.

Not near me which is good.

[yawnsvillex]

Nope! All total Bollox

How anyone can believe and trust a word this government says I have no idea.

I was a staunch Tory too.

[WheresMyMilk]

@chocolatesaltyballs22

How does it make any sense to exclude children from the 6? Can they not spread the virus or something??!

For those who are saying sod the rules, I hope your Christmases are right royally fucked by a total lockdown.

I’m not saying sod the rules, I will follow them, but you sound nasty
Besides those people will probably ignore lockdown at Christmas anyway.

[EveryPlanetHasAYorkshire]

@mrsnorrismeow

For those who are saying sod the rules, I hope your Christmases are right royally fucked by a total lockdown

I'll be spending christmas with my family lockdown or no lockdown.

Yup.

[MarshaBradyo]

People in my borough have been good 👌

[Kaktus]

@MarshaBradyo

Shame we can’t herd the non compilers together and we can keep our schools open and numbers down elsewhere. Hopefully people with same mindset have ended up in similar locations anyway.

What an odd thing to say! All areas have a mixture of people. I live in a large village... most obeying the rules, some not. I’m sure that’s the same around the country (world, in fact).