In all honesty. Do you think people will follow Mondays rule.. Honest truth

[DidSheReallySayThat20]

Everyone I have spoken to, or seen on SM have said how stupid it is and they will not be following the rule /law.

My dbs manager who owns the workplace. Was due to have a get together at home next sunday for their teens birthday.
They are now doing it at work. ( a garage.)
Has now said by doing it there and ' booking in the relatives cars for a visual inspection /safety check ' whilst waiting they could get together on forecourt spaced out, Because they would be 'customers' and they would be at work. And it's no different to it being random customers just because it's family.
So there would be 2 cars' booked in' one of. Which is a couple., one a family Of 3. Plus their own household of 4 (the teens work there weekends cleaning etc anyway)

Which made me think how silly the rule is. They can't do that in their garden but can on a forecourt (the garage is not on a main road or anything and out the way so unlikely to be seen)

[DidSheReallySayThat20]

My old work place was very socialable, it was in a quiet retail place so between customers we'd be allowed to sit and have a cuppa and chat etc.. There was 8 per shift.. I'm sure there's other places like that too.

[mrsnorrismeow]

I won't, whether it's legal or not.

[MarshaBradyo]

@Batshitbeautycosmeticsltd

On MN, yeah. In real life, no.

Like every other rule / restriction 80% plus will comply but the small loud minority who do not will absolutely be telling everyone about it on mn.

[Hairwizard]

Im in n.i so doesnt affect us but would i fuck be following the bs they are spouting out.
Test- demic. Not pandemic. Fking sick of this whole shit show.
What other disease or illness has there ever been a daily update like this? Ridiculous. All of it.

[QuestionMarkNow]

So basically it’s saying
Stuff your well-being, your MH, family and friends because that’s not productive.
What matters is making money. Then you are allowed/asked to your life at risk for the good of the society??

If you want to reduce risk, you start by what is causing the most problem first, not the little things that won’t make a great difference (80/20 rule etc...)

[Badbadbunny]

@MarshaBradyo

People are a bit stupid on this. If numbers keep going up eg like Spain, not Belgium, we will get more restrictions.

Indeed they will. It's why we got the lockdown in the first place. People had weeks in which they could have reduced the spread of covid, but they chose to ignore the guidance and we had lock down. Unless infection rates start to fall, the restrictions will get tougher and so will enforcement.

[AnnieP1]

Yet again Nicola Sturgeon has shown more sense by stating that children under 12 don't count towards the Rule of Six which will make it easier for families.
I'm interested to see how this law will be enforced - police have enough to do without peering into houses and pouncing on gatherings of more than six people. And as for Covid Marshals - really??
Also the new law, along with most of this government's legislation, makes zero sense.

[QuestionMarkNow]

@Concerned7777, sam W discussion in our family re seeing my PIL.

SIL is a family of 5 so shouldn't go and see PIL. Never mind that FIL is at the end of his life and has little time left

[WheresMyMilk]

This genuinely doesn't make sense to me. If we all follow the 'rule of six' and it's very effective, then it'll keep infections down. Then if we open up in time for Christmas, infections will go up again. It's just a pointless merry-go-round

This is my concern too. What’s the purpose in bringing the infection rates even lower when as soon as restrictions are lifted they go back up? that was always going to happen surely.
I had thought that it was to prevent NHS being overwhelmed but it’s not at the moment so If it is to stop people dying from covid, are we basically being banned from meeting others until a vaccine?

[Friendsoftheearth]

I will be following the law. I couldn't do my job with a criminal record.

[jagoda]

I don't know anyone in RL who would break the law, but a lot of my friends work in the legal field and our jobs would be at risk if we did so (Not important enough to pull a Cummings!)

I think Mumsnet has a high percentage of people who feel entitled to break the rules and law around Covid Safety compared to my own real life.

[jagoda]

Oh! X post Friends

[Badbadbunny]

[quote QuestionMarkNow]@EDSGFC, the problem is, you just cannot look at the raw numbers and just say ‘well, there are more cases diagnosed so it’s getting very serious’.
The number of tests done has increased exponentially recently so it’s only logical WITH THE SAME LEVEL OF INFECTION that we see also an exponential number of cases.

What would be a much better number is the number of people in hospital. (Number of people dying also interesting but also skewed as we now have a much better idea of how to treat people with Covid which also means less death)

It’s not possible to look at what is happening with such a simplistic tool as the number of cases.[/quote]
In the North West, numbers in hospital are rising, as are numbers in intensive care.

[movingonup20]

I think most people were not socialising in big groups anyway so it won't make a difference to the majority - I haven't been in a group of more than 6 yet. In fact the new regulations make my life easier because technically my DD's are separate households (university) so from Monday the 2 household rule does not apply!

[AHippoNamedBooBooButt]

Although I'm in England, I will follow Wales and Scotlands rule - max 6 but under 11s exempt from numbers. I think that is sensible and fair and hope England follow suit too

[movingonup20]

@Toilenstripes

Many students are already back if 2nd and 3rd years, dd is the last in her house to go back (this weekend) this probably has contributed to the scenes of young people in city centres

[LizzieSiddal]

I think more will follow if the English govt follow Scotland and discount Dc in the 6.

We have been sticking to all the rules, and will continue to. But won’t do it for Xmas day, as dd1 is having. A baby so that would make 7 for Xmas- If Scotland and wales can do it I can’t see why England can’t.

[FourTeaFallOut]

Although I'm in England, I will follow Wales and Scotlands rule

Can we pick and choose now? I think tomorrow I will drive to the speed limit set in Germany.

[jagoda]

SIL is a family of 5 so shouldn't go and see PIL. Never mind that FIL is at the end of his life and has little time left

I am sorry about your FIL, but I don't understand how the rule of six affects you or your family seeing him before he dies? If SIL is a family of five they can all go and see him. If MIL has to be there for some reason, SIL could visit with some of the family one time, and the others the next, or arrange it somehow so everyone wasn't in the house at the exact same time.

Nobody is saying these decisions are easy but some posters appear to be looking for issues when they can be simply overcome. I shall leave you to it and hide this thread as sadly it does appear to be over run with Deniers and Law Breakers.

[feellikeanalien]

I think that more people will break this rule than the previous ones. I think that will not necessarily mean people having massive gatherings but they may have 7 or 8 people instead of 6.
The problem is that people generally have little or no confidence in the way the government has handled this so they see this as just another arbitrary rule where figures have been plucked out of the air.
This virus is clearly here to stay, at least for the short term, so I think eventually there may be some difficult decisions to be made as to whether the risk from continuing with the current restrictions is greater than the massive damage which is being done to the economy and to the physical and mental health of people from conditions other than coronavirus.

[mrsnorrismeow]

I hate nothing more than po-faced, pious, jobsworth "RULEZ ARE MADE 2 BE KEPT" types.

If I want to see 7 family members on Christmas day, I will.

[Judashascomeintosomemoney]

I don’t know of anyone who has deliberately broken any previous rules, and I don’t know anyone intending to break this law. However, I do know of three 18th birthday parties that have now all been brought forward to this Saturday 🤷‍♀️

[mrsnorrismeow]

TBH the more people wang on about the "rules", the more inclination I feel to break them.

[littlefireseverywhere]

Yes, I don't think we'll have mass parties but we'll continue to meet with another family outside for bbq's, drinks round a firepit etc. As we were allowed to do that quite early in the summer. I think the rules are arbitary and purely economic and totally bonkers.

[FizzyGreenWater]

I thought the "rule" was now "law" and so not negotiable?

I thought that ''the law'' was now entirely negotiable?!

Can't have it both ways Tories!

Lol.

No, nobody is going to follow it and it's entirely the fault of this bunch of fucking useless hypocrites.