In all honesty. Do you think people will follow Mondays rule.. Honest truth

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Everyone I have spoken to, or seen on SM have said how stupid it is and they will not be following the rule /law.

My dbs manager who owns the workplace. Was due to have a get together at home next sunday for their teens birthday.
They are now doing it at work. ( a garage.)
Has now said by doing it there and ' booking in the relatives cars for a visual inspection /safety check ' whilst waiting they could get together on forecourt spaced out, Because they would be 'customers' and they would be at work. And it's no different to it being random customers just because it's family.
So there would be 2 cars' booked in' one of. Which is a couple., one a family Of 3. Plus their own household of 4 (the teens work there weekends cleaning etc anyway)

Which made me think how silly the rule is. They can't do that in their garden but can on a forecourt (the garage is not on a main road or anything and out the way so unlikely to be seen)

NailsNeedDoing - exactly, they can’t have it both ways. Cool, I’ll obey the law but I’m also not going to be spending on the high street.

@Funkypolar

EveryPlanetHasAYorkshire - well there’s a deadly virus in operation and numbers of infections are rising. So why are social venues allowed to remain open? Personally, I don’t fancy catching COVID19 going to Pret, even though we’ve been told to go to Pret and spend money.

And that deadly virus is not going away so...

I probably will as I have the other rules but honestly couldn't swear to it if it is still happening at Christmas as there 8 of us.

My gripe is we have everyone for dinner on Sunday DSD, her BF & DGS (who has disabilities so we were able to help care for him first time around), DS and his DG and DSS (who lives with us) me & DH. Now we only meet up once a week and DH gets covid tested weekly for job and we don't go out other than food shop and DSS has gone back to college this week. Under new rules though we aren't allowed to see them all together BUT DS & DG can go around to DSD's and meet up with them one night, come to ours for tea the next night and then DSD and BF can come for dinner on a Sunday - so we are all seeing everyone still, all in our own homes but now it is going to be spread out over the week and we can't do it together becuase the risk is too high?

I really just don't get the logic - Oh and I can be sat on a train with no social distancing or even get on a plane and take mask off to eat with reconditioned air but all kids together at once - nope.

It’s the sheer smugness and total self righteousness-ness of some of the people on here that gets me down.
If you loathe your family and have no friends then obviously you’re not going to care about locked up in your bloody house until Christmas.

I think many people with children won't, judging by recent MN posts. To be fair, it's not entirely clear what a "gathering" is when you have a house with more than one floor and a garden.

EveryPlanetHasAYorkshire - exactly, the virus isn’t going away so we should stay at home with everything closed for perhaps the next decade.

I didn’t appreciate Boris telling me to go back to the office, it’s not safe there either.

It’s the sheer smugness and total self righteousness-ness of some of the people on here that gets me down.

I think ( hope) this is partly a function of anonymous written posts online which encourages two bads things. First that people express themselves much more starkly than they would in person and that it is tempting to interpret things much more negatively than you would if someone said it to you with a smile.

@Funkypolar

EveryPlanetHasAYorkshire - exactly, the virus isn’t going away so we should stay at home with everything closed for perhaps the next decade.

I didn’t appreciate Boris telling me to go back to the office, it’s not safe there either.

A decade wouldn't be long enough. It would need to be forever in order to keep everyone safe.

I don't think everyone will follow it to the letter, but I do think it will reduce the numbers meeting and hopefully have an effect that way. Its only one element in reducing spread of course.

I'll be following them.

No, because people have worked out that C19 is mostly not a great threat to the public and they've had enough.

I agree billy there is definitely an element of that. I sense it with some people I know. It is the comments like 'oh you won't be going away this year will you' and 'oh well your christmas parties won't be happening'

It is almost as if they want us all to be as miserable as them!
I am not exactly a social butterfly all year, but I do love to see friends and travel as much as I can. Christmas is going to be so different this year.

@Fawnfour

Why are there so many of you not following the rules? Surely that's one reason we are in such a mess. I don't understand y people are so intent on breaking the rules.

Because they're illogical and we are poorly led by a government whose actions continually erode their moral authority.

EveryPlanetHasAYorkshire - completely agree. The economy will be fucked but far fewer people will be dying from Covid19 if there is very limited mixing. After all, only deaths from Covid19 matter.

@BillywilliamV

It’s the sheer smugness and total self righteousness-ness of some of the people on here that gets me down. If you loathe your family and have no friends then obviously you’re not going to care about locked up in your bloody house until Christmas.

It’s the sheer selfishness that will bring about further restrictions that mean I can do less than I can now.

You feel free to push up numbers as has happened in Birmingham and you can enjoy your own local lockdown. Far away from here one hopes.

Friendsoftheearth - think of all the money you’ll save by having a quiet Christmas. This really is a positive move by the government.

I expect Christmas spending on the high street will be much, much lower this year.

@Friendsoftheearth

I agree billy there is definitely an element of that. I sense it with some people I know. It is the comments like 'oh you won't be going away this year will you' and 'oh well your christmas parties won't be happening'

It is almost as if they want us all to be as miserable as them!
I am not exactly a social butterfly all year, but I do love to see friends and travel as much as I can. Christmas is going to be so different this year.

I despise this.

Also, 'you're still allowed to do X, Y, Z, it's not so bad'.

If only we could lump the like minded together. We could all be pleased.

I’ll stick with six and have stuff to do others can do none further down the line.

@Funkypolar

EveryPlanetHasAYorkshire - completely agree. The economy will be fucked but far fewer people will be dying from Covid19 if there is very limited mixing. After all, only deaths from Covid19 matter.

@BillywilliamV

It’s the sheer smugness and total self righteousness-ness of some of the people on here that gets me down. If you loathe your family and have no friends then obviously you’re not going to care about locked up in your bloody house until Christmas.

Or you could just be sensible and go to friends/family less often and not all at the same time?

I feel we might actually be the same person @Pikachubaby

@Funkypolar another reason the economy will tank. Do you know how much Christmas season helps are economy!?

If we want schools to stay open, for the sake of children and the economy, then we all need to keep on making sacrifices to that end.

Here in Birmingham, which is also set to have "local lockdown"? I doubt it.

@Refractory and I also despise “can you not just FaceTime them” to minimise distress at not seeing family, as though FaceTime is in any way a substitute for meeting up