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COVID in UK in Dec 2019

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PicsInRed · 09/09/2020 13:11

news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-daughter-of-uk-man-who-died-from-covid-19-in-january-attacks-china-for-cover-up-12067060

The above is about an elderly man, who hadn't left the UK, became ill in December, and died in January. COVID has now been found in his lung tissue.

The assumption seems to he that he contracted COVID in the community, long before it was presumed to even be in the community. He seems to have passed it on to his granddaughter, who presumably would also have unknowingly transmitted it further in the community.

With chest film and faecal samples now putting COVID in Europe in Autumn 2019 - or even possibly as early as March 2019 - surely there are some pretty big questions that need to be asked and answered by the government?

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Derbygerbil · 11/09/2020 20:33

The argument was that there wasn't a spike in deaths - but there isn't a spike now, either (yet). Few cases = few deaths. By March there were hundreds of thousands of cases.

Covid cases and hospitalisations were doubling every few days back in March. The R was around 3 in a totally unrestricted environment. It can’t have been widespread back in December. Even if just 0.1% of people had been infected at Christmas, and infections were doubling every week (which is the current rate and considerably lower than the growth rate back in March), over half the population would have been infected by the end of February. The numbers don’t stack up, not even close.

That’s not to say Covid-19 wasn’t here... just not yet spreading widely in the population as has been proposed here against all evidence - really strong evidence at that - to the contrary.

If Covid was indeed endemic and widespread back in December - a huge “if” but I wont discount it entirely - something dramatically changed in the virus’s make-up to make it much make transmissible and much deadlier, meaning whatever it was, was a very different virus - and not the Covid-19 in the sense that we have been grappling with since early spring - in the same way the flu of 1917 was very different to the Spanish flu that followed even if it was related.

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