Will the new law on social gatherings make you reconsider your activities?

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Yes or no?

I'm just surprised how easily people take changes of law ito their social and family lives.
Guidance is one thing, changing laws a whole different level.

@newwnamme

Erm, take a look at our politicians for a long list of people who have been deciding rules don't apply to them from the off *@AlexaShutUp*. The ones who make the headlines are only the ones unlucky enough to get caught.

If politicians are at it, why are you surprised that the general populace is too? Huge huge numbers of people have been making their own decisions on things for months and months now. Some blatantly and others privately, some in minor ways and others in significant ones but it's nothing new.

I suspect many people have realised that it's no coincidence that activities that result in a tax contribution are somehow 'covid secure' but directly comparable situations with no money changing hands are not? And with that in mind, perhapd it has become apparent to many that as thinking adults, fully informed on the risks, we are able to judge and evaluate them for ourselves in a far more accurate way than our so called leaders are able to do.

Well, yes.

We cannot keep the economy shut down any longer and the Treasury has to get money from somewhere.

Guidance is one thing, changing laws a whole different level.

I know. It is frightening really.

@fifteenisthemagicnumber

Those of you who are going to just ignore this and "get on with things", do you have people to just "get on with it" with? Parties etc still going ahead, will no one in the group be worried about the fact that you're breaking the law?

Breaking the law? Well they can all just go to the pub instead and meet there where it's allowed!

Is it not a little meaningless though?

Who is going to know how many people are within my home? How will they know? How will they gain access to investigate any potential breaches of this law? When there are police patrolling my suburban street, noting down arrivals and departures and battering down doors of suspected lunch parties of 7+, perhaps i will reconsider. Until such a time, this makes precisely no material difference to me.

Thank you for the link!

Seems to be far to many get out clauses in these rules so people can wiggle out of them.

It won’t make a difference to me because I have been following the guidelines (and Incidentally almost everyone I know has done so too).
Disappointing, but not surprising, to see so many people believe themselves to be so special that the rules not apply to them. Of course some things like schools are exempt, it’s about risk vs benefit surely, and yes that includes some economic activity.

Breaking the law? Well they can all just go to the pub instead and meet there where it's allowed!

It’s not though Is it. Groups larger than six shouldn’t be meeting in pubs, and pubs should have appropriate measures in place (pre booking, table service, distancing etc). Every pub I’ve been to since lockdown has done that very well, the ones that are not doing that need to be made to, or closed down until they can/will.

Yes. We are a family of five. So no meeting up with friends, family, play dates etc, all kids and baby/ toddler groups cancelled. We have done everything asked of us and this is a huge set back.

I lost track of the rules a long time ago become they were so muddled. I've been careful but used my own judgement, so will just carry on as normal and exercise common sense.

@DamitJanet

Breaking the law? Well they can all just go to the pub instead and meet there where it's allowed!

It’s not though Is it. Groups larger than six shouldn’t be meeting in pubs, and pubs should have appropriate measures in place (pre booking, table service, distancing etc). Every pub I’ve been to since lockdown has done that very well, the ones that are not doing that need to be made to, or closed down until they can/will.

Yes, but what is to stop people making two bookings for when the party is going to be over 6 people? Pubs cant manage/staff that as its not sit down drinks at tables, is it? When you are at a pub its a social experience so people do tend to talk to other people, or bump into people they know - even if it wasn't planned. Are you meant to simply block out other people and not communicate with them because you have already chosen your group for the day?

Simply put, unless the pubs and bars are serving food and therefore have tables that can be booked and separated out then they should not be open. You should have to book a table in advance, and stay at that table... but its not working like that just now.

Does this mean pubs are likely to close?

@thebeachismyhappyplace2

Does this mean pubs are likely to close?

I certainly hope so - i see no benefit to them being open other than its making money (which could be made elsewhere really)

@cantkeepawayforever - your post is one of the clearest and most compelling I have read on Mumsnet

Makes no difference to me. We are a family of 5. 4 of us live in the family home and the other 1 - DD lives alone so she can be in our bubble. Like lots of people we have wider family and friends but I'm sure non of us is going to come to any harm by not seeing each other in person for a few months. There are so many ways of staying in contact - even FIL aged 82 and currently in hospital has got to grips with WhatsApp.
I really can't be doing with all the whingeing. If this new rule stops Covid spreading then I think everyone should just get on with it. We need to stop the moaning and get this thing gone.

Cases are going up because we came out of lockdown,

Cases are going up because of how we cane out of lockdown

Nope

Oh and who is going to police it???

The police

I loathe the attitude of posters like @newwnamme where it’s about their risk assessment for themselves with a casual disregard at best for others

"And why wait til Monday for these laws to come into play? Is covid taking a holiday til then? Utterly ridiculous 🤷🏻‍♀️"

Maybe Boris has a big dinner party planned for the weekend or something.

Yeah, nephew's 30th birthday party, which was about twelve of us, outdoors (already against guidelines, but not originally against the law), will have to be cancelled. Even if it's not cancelled, I now won't go.

I feel sad about this as it's been a really tricky thing to organise anyway, with family issues going on, and we were all geared up to front out some of the problems that would arise, but now these problems will just have to fester on, un confronted!

We have already lost the best part of a year to this virus

Eh? Lockdown was x3 months

@CoffeeandCroissant

"And why wait til Monday for these laws to come into play? Is covid taking a holiday til then? Utterly ridiculous 🤷🏻‍♀️"

Maybe Boris has a big dinner party planned for the weekend or something.

Ppl may have plans this weekend, they’ll be wary of angering ppl.

Go to work, wear a mask and see your friends. Use your common sense! If you feel ill stay at home. It's really not that hard.

If that is true, why are the cases rising so much?

I'm beginning to think our 'lovely' Government are on glue or something.
Do they really think that the younger folk are going to do what the Government say?
A pp mentioned when children leave High School at the end of the day. Well many of them are walking home in big groups & also meeting up outside of school in groups bigger than 6.
University students will still have their gatherings.
Finally I'm going to talk about 'the elephant in the room' - coming from a big multicultural city there are a small minority of people ignoring all the rules & still having their big meet-ups, weddings, funerals, celebrating festivals.
Yet the authorities don't tackle this problem because they fear being accused of oppression/racism.

Doesn't matter what ethnicity you are or how you describe your ethnicity, everyone should be treated the same regardless of what race or religion you are.