Will the new law on social gatherings make you reconsider your activities?

[Redolent]

Yes or no?

[primabloodydonna]

colouringindoors

You do what you need to stay mentally well. Those of us with mental illness have been acceptable collateral damage in all of this

[AllieCat26]

If anyone is to blame for this current spike in Covid cases - it’s the government for encouraging the eat out to help out scheme! It’s not the young‘a fault, it’s not the old’s fault, it’s solely on our inept government. They should just be honest for once and admit that they have messed it up. 😡

[StatisticalSense]

Weddings have to be allowed because it is essential that people are able to obtain the legal protections that they bring (and unfortunately many of those most in need of such protections would be persuaded by their partner not to marry with their family not there so a certain number of guests have to be permitted), whereas birthday and other similar parties are purely social events.

[compulsiveliar2019]

It is completely ridiculous. The death rate is in the single figures. Hospital cases are below 1000. The increase in numbers over the past few days can be explained in several different ways! We are testing virtually everybody with symptoms and some asymptotic people who are in essential roles. We have a far better idea of what's going on than we did in March. We have better knowledge of how the virus behaves than we did in March.

It's ridiculous because they are saying schools can go back in huge bubbles. But small family gatherings are suddenly too much of a risk. There is no mention of people needing to shield again.

This is government propaganda aimed at keeping up the fear. Diverting attention from other issues that are cropping up that are being kept under the radar (borders in Ireland for example). This has f**k all to do with covid.

Oh and who is going to police it???

[Longestride25]

I am a bit confused about
Soft play centres ? Etc

[Timekeepspassing]

@Theluggage15

Well as the Oxford vaccine trial has just been halted because of a serious adverse event, it looks even more likely that we have to learn to live with this virus. And living means seeing friends and family not this crap.

I haven’t seen this. Where have you seen this reported?

[cantkeepawayforever]

@Vinoonasunnyday

No I’ll be doing what I want

Don’t agree with lockdown

People die everyday and everyone just needs to risk assess their own life and act accordingly

Like many others, I will not be abiding by any rules although I will happily sacrifice seeing vulnerable relatives til it settles

Could you just make suyre that your life doesn't intersect with anyone who might feel differently, but be affected by the decisions that you make?

As a vulnerable teacher, I am subject to the 'weakest link' - essentially, whatever my personal 'risk budget' needs to be, the risk I am exposed to is driven by the riskiest behaviour amongst the people I come into contact with.

So if there is anyone who HAS to come into contact with you and your family, could you make certain that you make certain that they are protected from you as far as possible? Of course, you can make your own decisions that affect you alone, but where those have a direct wider impact through your contact with others (especially if that contact is not optional), then you need to consider them too.

[GiraffeWithSwag]

@KindKylie

That's the problem Giraffe, I'm not allowed any say in any of this and none of it is a choice.

Sport may not be essential to you but for one of my DC it is absolutely essential to their mental health. For many, many people mixing with 1 other household has made them feel able to cope and find positives. Stopping that is not simply a case of getting on with it.

Completely understand and I’m in no way defending the govt/guidelines/law. It’s a complete shit show all round, for all sorts of people, for all sorts of reasons. I’m an NHS check and chat volunteer and have spoken to all sorts of folk up and down the country. My friend is a counsellor. The impact on mental health is massive...for kids and adults alike.

[primabloodydonna]

haven’t seen this. Where have you seen this reported

It's on twitter but it isn't nearly as frightening as that poster has implied; all it means is that someone on the trial has experienced an illness so they have halted the trial temporarily to determine whether or not it was related to the vaccine.

It is standard and happens on all vaccine trials.

[cantkeepawayforever]

Oxford vaccine trial halted.

www.ft.com/content/98fca6d4-fcd2-488c-bcfc-d47758740a1a

[Timekeepspassing]

@primabloodydonna

haven’t seen this. Where have you seen this reported

It's on twitter but it isn't nearly as frightening as that poster has implied; all it means is that someone on the trial has experienced an illness so they have halted the trial temporarily to determine whether or not it was related to the vaccine.

It is standard and happens on all vaccine trials.

Thanks. I know about pauses in trials etc. but just wondered where that had been reported.

[LouisBalfour]

It’s all bollocks.

I can’t see 6 friends, but I can go to a busy gym class or a wedding with 30 guests.

[PerfidiousAlbion]

No but then I never get together with big groups, only a maximum of four or five people at the most (raging introvert).

I doubt people will change their behaviour.

[newwnamme]

Nope.

Wont be cancelling or changing anything. We are a family of four and will continue to see other families & groups of friends of varying sizes at our own home and homes of others as and when we see fit. I'm not planning on attending any raves or house parties (sadly those days seem rather behind me but more on account of the 2 x toddlers than covid) but kids birthday parties, casual sunday lunches, playdates, visits etc. Yes we will be continuing. No-one gets to dictate what I do within my own four walls. To be frank, this has been the case since that dominic Cummings escapade, at which point I decided if people were happy to see us, we were happy to see them in accordance with our own assessments of the risks involved.

[primabloodydonna]

I decided if people were happy to see us, we were happy to see them in accordance with our own assessments of the risks involved.

Yep, that's pretty much been my approach to it too.

[colouringindoors]

prima thank you, really appreciate that.

[BeijingBikini]

I decided if people were happy to see us, we were happy to see them in accordance with our own assessments of the risks involved

Me three

[jessstan2]

@Ellsbells12

No I didn't even realise it had gone about 6 I am past caring

Exactly how I feel. Life will go on regardless.

[cantkeepawayforever]

@newwnamme

Nope.

Wont be cancelling or changing anything. We are a family of four and will continue to see other families & groups of friends of varying sizes at our own home and homes of others as and when we see fit. I'm not planning on attending any raves or house parties (sadly those days seem rather behind me but more on account of the 2 x toddlers than covid) but kids birthday parties, casual sunday lunches, playdates, visits etc. Yes we will be continuing. No-one gets to dictate what I do within my own four walls. To be frank, this has been the case since that dominic Cummings escapade, at which point I decided if people were happy to see us, we were happy to see them in accordance with our own assessments of the risks involved.

How do you approach the risks that you and your family therefore bring into schools, which is obviously higher than for families following the guidance?

[LouisBalfour]

I think most people are so pissed off with it, they will apply their own judgement. If I want to have 8 family members over for lunch, I will.

[cantkeepawayforever]

@LouisBalfour

I think most people are so pissed off with it, they will apply their own judgement. If I want to have 8 family members over for lunch, I will.

How do you approach the risks that you and your family therefore bring into schools, which is obviously higher than for families following the guidance?

[cantkeepawayforever]

It is the dichotomy between this thread, and the one bemoaning how many children have already been sent home from school, that i find frankly bizarre ... as if the two things are TOTALLY unconnected, and nothing you are doing can possibly have anything to do with schools closing and children being sent home...until it happens to you...

[GiantPinesAhem]

@colouringindoors

i dont know what i will do tbh. me and two kids have been meetimg up with one family each week (same family) there's 4 of them. i honestly dont think my mental health will survive if i dont see them any more. i have a dd asd and a disabled ds. I can't do winter without seeing them

That sounds like you're a bubble, which will be exempt x

[Titsywoo]

@dollypartonscoat

"Will have to as we had an event for 30 people organised in a function room in 11 days time. Nightmare as it is people travelling from all over the country and everyone has paid for hotel rooms."

*@Titsywoo* the fact that people were doing this against the guidance is what has led to your "nightmare" situation though.

Didn't even realise it was against the guidance tbh. It's all so bloody confusing.

[profilechange]

It's ok the virus doesn't go to weddings or funerals so can't be caught in groups of 30 or so there!
I'm done with these stupid rules. Go to work, wear a mask and see your friends. Use your common sense! If you feel ill stay at home. It's really not that hard.
And why wait til Monday for these laws to come into play? Is covid taking a holiday til then? Utterly ridiculous 🤷🏻‍♀️