Will the new law on social gatherings make you reconsider your activities?

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Yes or no?

@VinylDetective

Looks as if my friend’s daughter’s wedding is fucked again. It was supposed to be in Puglia in October so was obviously cancelled. Then it was a registry office on the 18th of this month with 28 people. Now that’s gone too. I feel so sorry for them.

No it's not, weddings are exempt and still have 30

@OpenlyGayExOlympicFencer

So you think everyone followed the rules, do you? So you think that we would still be in the same situation if we had done so?

In that case, I have 5 beans...

[quote Jaxhog]@OpenlyGayExOlympicFencer

So you think everyone followed the rules, do you? So you think that we would still be in the same situation if we had done so?

In that case, I have 5 beans...[/quote]
I think what I said, which doesn't bear any resemblance to what you wrote there. I shall repeat it, because it bears repeating. You have no idea whether none of these regulations would have happened if everyone had followed the rules. It was a claim you have no hope of backing up.

@Jaxhog

Well, if everyone had followed the previous rules, the government wouldn't have had to do this. At least this should help schools stay open.

How can you possibly know this?

Nothing changes for me. Still working. Still sit outside when I visit parents. Dob't go anywhere else or see anyone else.

Surely it should be two households can mix, rather than like a set number?
The trouble is, if you have one household of 7 and another of 5 then others who have a household of 4 who might mix with another household of 4 might then start complaining. They might think 'there are only 8 of us so surely we can have 4 friends around too if households of 7 and 5 can meet?'. Give some people an inch and they'll take a mile. It may be that you'd be sensible but the Govt often have to cater for the covidiots.

She appears to be divining it through the medium of beans philcornwall1.

booked bnb for 3 nights with 5 friends end Sept no plans to change them

@roarfeckingroarr

Ranunculi:

I am thrilled! Guidance was always 6 people but loads of selfish snowflakes were ignoring it and whinging “but the law says 30”. Now the law has been updated to match the guidance, hopefully putting a stop to the stupidity and selfishness.

You sound fun
Ranunculi actually sounds smart, educated, unselfish.

[quote NotEverythingIsBlackandWhite]**@TeaLibrary

I think the nonsensical bollocks guidance is a thorough shambles. The government have made clear that on the one hand they want us all gathering in our offices /pubs/ restaurants to keep the economy going but on the other hand now want to make it illegal for more than 6 people to gather socially.
The difference is that offices, pubs and restaurants are supposed to have implemented Covid-secure measures to protect employees and clients. This is very different to large gatherings in a household with no social-distancing. There is evidence that shows that in 80% - 90% cases the virus is being transmitted through household contact.

The government are hypocrites who want to keep shoving us back into crammed work spaces and don't give a monkeys about spreading it in the workplace but when it comes to life outside work they want to control who we gather with.
Have you listened to yourself? If the Govt didn't care about people spreading the virus in the workplace then they wouldn't have imposed stricter restrictions in Leicester when the garment manufacturer had an outbreak.

Think about it logically. I know you obviously find it difficult but maybe you could try. How does the Govt benefit from controlling who we gather with outside work? Mmm, they don't. So why would they want to control that? Ooh, it could be that they want to protect us.

I can't believe you are stupid enough to really believe what you have written. If you are then maybe our education system is fucked.[/quote]
And I think your thoroughly unpleasant sneering condescending post needs to be deleted.
As for your attacks on my intelligence and education. Kindly go and do one. I might remind you that personal attacks are contrary to the talk guidelines and as such your post has been reported for being both abusive and offensive.

The thing is the new infections are from social gatherings and not from schools and workplaces apparently so it makes sense.

The social gatherings/parties/raves and drinking and meeting up is apparently where the current infections are coming from (I haven't done any of these).

You sound fun
Ranunculi actually sounds smart, educated, unselfish
I’ve done my best to be sensible. I haven’t been in a group of more than 4 since February. My DS has no other children to play with because he’s too little to maintain SD. Our lives have been severely curtailed. It therefore annoys the heck out of me that groups of kids are running around with no SD, and selfish people are having massive parties in the back garden with 30+ people and insisting it’s fine because “the maximum of 6 people is only guidance so therefore we don’t have to stick to it”. If we all behaved like that the R rate would go through the roof! The majority of us are being restricted so a minority can swan around doing whatever they like, and it’s unfair. So I’m glad the government has put a stop to it.

@OpenlyGayExOlympicFencer

Please do kaktus, reading the pious lectures in response to you was amusing.

I agree

Incredibly frustrating for you kaktus 💐

Sometimes i wonder what people are actually readings

Whatever it is they're reading, it isn't the legislation!

No

Makes me laugh.

Let's create MORE rules for the rule breakers.

@Ranunculi

You sound fun Ranunculi actually sounds smart, educated, unselfish I’ve done my best to be sensible. I haven’t been in a group of more than 4 since February. My DS has no other children to play with because he’s too little to maintain SD. Our lives have been severely curtailed. It therefore annoys the heck out of me that groups of kids are running around with no SD, and selfish people are having massive parties in the back garden with 30+ people and insisting it’s fine because “the maximum of 6 people is only guidance so therefore we don’t have to stick to it”. If we all behaved like that the R rate would go through the roof! The majority of us are being restricted so a minority can swan around doing whatever they like, and it’s unfair. So I’m glad the government has put a stop to it.

Ditto here too. I only hope the police/councils actually go out and enforce the new laws. It's time for a strong message to be sent to the Covid deniers that it's not gone away and everyone needs to take some pretty simple precautions rather than doing what the hell they want.

I won't have any choice as most of my activities are organised children's activities, so they'll get cancelled (although I'm hoping that some of them might be permitted under education/sport). My dd has only just restarted at one of them this week, and I feel so sad for her. She was very clingy (not her usual behaviour) as it felt so strange to be doing the class in a socially distanced way after a long break, and most of the other children were struggling too (some couldn't manage to even enter the room). I saw that lots of the baby/toddler classes she used to go to were opening up this week, and I can't see how those businesses will survive now. I'm relieved that she has started nursery recently, as she really needs the play opportunities and interaction, and I think nurseries are less likely to shut than other activities, as they're essential for working parents.

Personally I'd be willing to overlook the rules for gatherings at home, but the only people I'd meet up with are my sisters or parents, and they would want to stick to the rules to the letter. But none of us have families larger than 4, so I can still take dd to visit her cousins and grandparents (but at separate times). I don't have any friends that I'd be meeting up with, so no change for me there.

@Ranunculi

You sound fun Ranunculi actually sounds smart, educated, unselfish I’ve done my best to be sensible. I haven’t been in a group of more than 4 since February. My DS has no other children to play with because he’s too little to maintain SD. Our lives have been severely curtailed. It therefore annoys the heck out of me that groups of kids are running around with no SD, and selfish people are having massive parties in the back garden with 30+ people and insisting it’s fine because “the maximum of 6 people is only guidance so therefore we don’t have to stick to it”. If we all behaved like that the R rate would go through the roof! The majority of us are being restricted so a minority can swan around doing whatever they like, and it’s unfair. So I’m glad the government has put a stop to it.

Me too.

Gatherings have gotten bigger here since the “school bubbles” were announced as, like many have posted on MN, they are mixing at school so why shouldn’t they outside of school. I’m glad there is a law now rather than guidance as the police will have more powers.

Many people have followed guidance to protect themselves and others making lots of sacrifices. Lots haven’t though as evidenced through large gatherings, no masks, no SD etc and now cases are rising. There will be more and more measures bought in whilst those cases continue to rise.

According to one (tabloid ) newspaper the changes to the law have come about "after police demanded greater powers to fine young Covid flouters*.

There is a house around the corner from me where there have been weekly parties for the last month. Hopefully, with the new law, the neighbours will feel confident in reporting them to the police.

Out of interest, why do people think that the virus trumps a single parent's mental health?

I live alone, so am no stranger to the mental health issue, but the short answer to your question is that broadly speaking you don’t catch poor mental health from being in contact with someone.

No major changes here. Most of the time I'm WFH or going to the supermarket, as is DH.

DD is back at school and DS about to go back to Uni though.

I have been disobeying the rules in one area though. I'm in Greater Manchester and here I can legally sit right next to my DM outside a cafe if we want a coffee together, surrounded by people who could have been anywhere. Instead we have broken the rules by sitting 3m apart in her garden.

It's much safer and makes more sense.

So people have been breaking guidelines and that’s driving cases up. Debatable but let’s just assume that is the case for a minute.

Those doing it are already outside of the rules and happily so. How will bringing in an unenforceable law change that?

All at the same time as enforcing huge swathes of children and workers back into larger groups. This seems like little more than moronic tokenism.

I have no personal stake in whether schools are open or closed, but I see that they need to be open for the good of society as a whole so happy to do my bit.

But it really irks me that people have been banging on for weeks that schools must be open so that children can be educated and have an opportunity to SOCIALISE, but the fact that they’re now socialising for several hours a day apparently doesn’t count because they MUST be allowed to meet up with another family even if that means there will be a group of more than 6. Just be a bit flexible! If you wanted to visit a large family then let a few of them come to you on separate occasions, or visit when some people are out - it’s not rocket science!

DS's birthday party in the garden next week won't be able to happen now. We're a family of 5 so will only be allowed 1 friend to visit at a time. Seems daft when they are all at school together.