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MJMG2015 · 09/09/2020 10:51

@colouringindoors

i dont know what i will do tbh. me and two kids have been meetimg up with one family each week (same family) there's 4 of them. i honestly dont think my mental health will survive if i dont see them any more. i have a dd asd and a disabled ds. I can't do winter without seeing them

I'm sorry to hear you are struggling & you have such difficulties to overcome 🌷

Why can't the adults in their family alternate weeks?

(But being perfectly honest, I think if you stick to what you've been doing it's fine. Especially if they're not seeing loads of others).

I think the two families thing was better but too many people took the piss and spoilt it for everyone! Idiots.

LouiseNW · 09/09/2020 10:52

OpenlyGayExOlympicFencer

berating people for not doing something that comes into place in 5 days is a bit of a waste of energy, would have thought.

Suspect that’s in short supply atm 🥺

Kaktus · 09/09/2020 10:52

We need to get through this to move on and this starts by being Covid smart and not a Covidiot

People using trite sound bites like this doesn’t help with encouraging people to take it seriously.

OpenlyGayExOlympicFencer · 09/09/2020 10:53

@LouiseNW

OpenlyGayExOlympicFencer

berating people for not doing something that comes into place in 5 days is a bit of a waste of energy, would have thought.

Suspect that’s in short supply atm 🥺

You would think.

Concerned7777 · 09/09/2020 10:54

Nope we are a family of 5, if I want to see my parents or inlaws then I will, not for 1 second will I have the charade of having 1 of us stood outside at any 1 time its madness. As far as socialising in big groups thats as much as we do anyway not a chance in hell im stopping that.

SqidgeBum · 09/09/2020 10:56

When they say 6 people socially, does that mean hobby classes too? As far as I know, a gym can hold a session inside once people are socially distanced. Can my craft group hold a session of 8 people socially distanced? Or is it just physical exercise thats ok? The class was due to resume next week.

PhilCornwall1 · 09/09/2020 10:58

@Kaktus

We need to get through this to move on and this starts by being Covid smart and not a Covidiot

People using trite sound bites like this doesn’t help with encouraging people to take it seriously.

It sounds like a quote the idiots in No. 10 would come up with.

You can just imagine BE COVID SMART glued to the press conference lecterns.

Xenia · 09/09/2020 10:58

As I and someone else said above we still do not have the regulations. I check the legislation website every few days for work and home purposes. It is not always a fun read but it certainly gives the true legal position and the new regs are not in force yet and not drafted yet so we will have to wait to see what they say.

None of this really affects me as I like my own company and work from home but it is very unfair on young people and I would much rather have many more deaths than have these laws in place.

RedskyAtnight · 09/09/2020 11:01

Did you not see Hancock? Fine details needed but the important principles were pretty clear, I thought.

And of the course the experience of the last few months has shown that every announcement made by a government minister entirely tallies with the subsequent legislation? And equally that the government never change their mind?

I'm going to wait for the actual law.

Zenithbear · 09/09/2020 11:01

No. I've been at work since May and met with hundreds of people and so has my dp.
So will I gather with 7+ friends? Yes. One of our dc works at school, one works in retail they have also been working and mixing with the public. Sick of the ridiculous rules.

starray · 09/09/2020 11:02

I think it is much clearer now. I found the rules very confusing before. 6 is 6. That's it.

ResIpsaLoquiturInterAlia · 09/09/2020 11:03

@Kaktus

We need to get through this to move on and this starts by being Covid smart and not a Covidiot

People using trite sound bites like this doesn’t help with encouraging people to take it seriously.

This may sound harsh but evidently the latest UK government hands face space messaging is not loud and clear enough.

Basically there must be some science as to our community collective behaviours and Covid outcomes. If in doubt be more cautious not more brave and taking an unknown risk (if practicable). Hope this helps. As those who have experienced Covid health impacts or losses would get it.

NotEverythingIsBlackandWhite · 09/09/2020 11:03

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LonelyFromCorona · 09/09/2020 11:03

No.

starray · 09/09/2020 11:04

" I would much rather have many more deaths than have these laws in place." Really?! Wow, that's harsh.

Kaktus · 09/09/2020 11:04

Basically there must be some science as to our community collective behaviours and Covid outcomes. If in doubt be more cautious not more brave and taking an unknown risk (if practicable). Hope this helps

Well no, it doesn’t ‘help’, I wasn’t looking for help. I am perfectly aware of the science. I was referring to your juvenile and trite wording... ‘Covid smart’ and ‘covidiots’.

LouiseNW · 09/09/2020 11:04

“ ...... but it is very unfair on young people and I would much rather have many more deaths than have these laws in place”.

Respect your honesty, Xenia, but just can’t get my head round this statement.

My 17 year old is vulnerable, as is my husband who works from hone and protects the livelihoods and pensions of thousands. They’re not dispensable statistics, they’re valuable people, no more or less worthy than anyone else.
For the sake of 6 months’ more patience and consideration, most people could come through this unscathed. I also have 26 and 27 year old kids with a baby, who agree.

OpenlyGayExOlympicFencer · 09/09/2020 11:05

I don't see any reason to believe government claims about transmission coming primarily from private gatherings. It could be true, not saying it isn't, but I don't actually believe they would be/have been honest with us if the evidence were to show something less convenient.

Friedbanana · 09/09/2020 11:06

Can I just ask a question- my sister’s family and my parents and grandma are all living in the same house (7 people including the children)- does this mean I’m no longer allowed to visit their house? What if 2 people stayed in another room? (Normally happens anyway as it’s not a huge house!) i’d just be visiting on my own. However we can’t be classed as a support bubble as I live with my partner.

Bluelinings · 09/09/2020 11:06

@NotEverythingIsBlackandWhite I know about outdoors changing, I was specifically replying to someone else’s comment about indoors. Always wise to provide clarification though! Just in case. Thanks

Lockdownseperation · 09/09/2020 11:08

@NotEverythingIsBlackandWhite rather than slag me off it would be better if you educated me. Please explain what people can’t do now which they could previously do while following the guidelines. I am aware that the full details are not out yet so at the moment the public don’t follow know that the difference will be but please do share what you already know.

ResIpsaLoquiturInterAlia · 09/09/2020 11:09

"Katus
We need to get through this to move on and this starts by being Covid smart and not a Covidiot

People using trite sound bites like this doesn’t help with encouraging people to take it seriously.

It sounds like a quote the idiots in No. 10 would come up with.

You can just imagine BE COVID SMART glued to the press conference lecterns."

Who needs Cummings as happy to take credit for "BE COVID SMART" it it helps to save lives and livelihoods!

PhilCornwall1 · 09/09/2020 11:09

@starray

" I would much rather have many more deaths than have these laws in place." Really?! Wow, that's harsh.

I can agree with it though. I'm not at all worried about a bunch of randoms I don't know.

wanderings · 09/09/2020 11:10

As others have said, MONEY FOR THE TAXMAN is what it's all about. Remember they were hinting at closing the pisshouses pubs when the schools went back? That would have a drastic effect on the economy, but parties at home much less so.

Perhaps also, they're thinking that there would be fewer parties anyway while the kids are at school. I'm sure this has been planned for a while.

They're probably also taking the view (and actually, I think they're right) that with organised activities such as sport, people are more likely to follow precautions such as hand gel, not sharing equipment, and so on; the group organisers don't want to be shut down for not following the roolz, and there's more accountability; whereas this is not the case in private houses.

Kaktus · 09/09/2020 11:10

[quote Lockdownseperation]@NotEverythingIsBlackandWhite rather than slag me off it would be better if you educated me. Please explain what people can’t do now which they could previously do while following the guidelines. I am aware that the full details are not out yet so at the moment the public don’t follow know that the difference will be but please do share what you already know.[/quote]
Based on what Matt Hancock has said, previously people were able to meet in two households of any number, whereas now they won’t be able to. It will be maximum numbers of 6. So a family of 6 won’t be able to visit grandparents, for example.
Whether what he said actually translates to the legislation remains to be seen.