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That was quicker than I thought......

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Lostinagoodbook · 31/08/2020 08:27

Child's school opened last week, email about a confirmed case in a child yesterday........ and so it begins. So not brought in by staff having coffee breaks in this instance(can you tell those comments annoyed me lol).

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yoikes · 31/08/2020 13:46

Oh crap :(
Whereabouts in Leicestershire are you op?

Cloudburstagain · 31/08/2020 13:51

Yes - selfish parents who do not seem to be able to read guidelines, or rather do not wish to follow them! Which is why it will spread in schools, as they will not have been in the main socially distancing or reducing their contacts.

I do not think schools will spread it, rather parents sending in children regardless of their “coughs and colds” which are just colds, as they know!! Sigh ..... as a shielded teacher, I am not looking forward to next week!

Shitfuckoh · 31/08/2020 13:55

@Cloudburstagain
Our school have said any DC with any cold etc has to be kept at home (Was a little Shock to begin with as the head even said sniffles & with 3DC they tend to be around from October until March but totally understand why).

All it means it parents are already talking about keeping the calpol etc topped up.
I hope your return to school goes well, 1 back Weds with DC1 back Thursday.

Unsure33 · 31/08/2020 14:00

It seems like fast track testing is what the scientists need to concentrate on . I did see in USA Abbott are developing one and not expensive either .

dementedpixie · 31/08/2020 14:05

The first news reports were on 19th August and said 8 adults connected to to the school had tested positive. It would have opened in the middle of the previous week. The school then closed due to the complex needs of the pupils and then later were all told to isolate for 14 days.

krustykittens · 31/08/2020 14:09

We have been back three weeks in Scotland and have already had a confirmed case at my child's high school and a localised outbreak. I am wondering how soon we will be back in lockdown. Sad

BoggledBudgie · 31/08/2020 14:09

Schools in Scotland have been open since 12 August. No cases in my DC school nor any of the schools around us. Folk are being hysterical for nowt now, think they love the drama.

dementedpixie · 31/08/2020 14:12

no cases in the schools around me either. I'm in North lanarkshire but its a big area so we aren't near the cases that have been reported

justanotherneighinparadise · 31/08/2020 14:16

I feel the same. I fully suspect my children will be back then having to isolate them the school will shut, then reopen and this shit show will continue for a few years.

museumum · 31/08/2020 14:25

The Zoe app estimates 192 active cases in the whole of Edinburgh and the lothians. That’s tiny compared to the population. I’m not in any way complacent and I do think that money should have been made available to the most crowded schools for hire of local additional spaces but so far my dc has got so much benefit from their 2.5 weeks of school. And my stress levels and guilt levels from trying to work and parent simultaneously are easing. There will be lockdowns and targeted isolation I’m sure but with current track and trace I really hope it won’t spiral out of control again.

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Lostinagoodbook · 31/08/2020 14:31

@yoikes- outer Leicestershire. Not in lockdown area (is Leicester even in local lockdown still? )

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MintyMabel · 31/08/2020 14:35

However, as the Scot Gov maintains there is no requirement for SD within the school building, my DC picked up a bug within 3 weeks of returning, as have many others. And yes, we are fortunate it wasn’t Covid. We are also just out of local lockdown here, which makes us even more wary.

And we all know this is not based on science, it is because they know they cannot run a full time service with SD because they don't have the space or the staff. Everything coming through now is showing the rigorous cleaning of surfaces and hands is not going to make much of a difference. Distancing and masks are required to stop the spread. The number of colds coming out of schools at the moment suggests that is very much the case.

I wonder if Nicola is now going to close down Glasgow, like she did with Aberdeen given the number of clusters there? Doubt it - yet more proof her motives are political.

MintyMabel · 31/08/2020 14:36

We have been back three weeks in Scotland and have already had a confirmed case at my child's high school and a localised outbreak. I am wondering how soon we will be back in lockdown

But, but other people haven't had that so it is apparently irrelevant and means it is all working just fine and anyone who thinks it won't in England is just being hysterical.

MadameBlobby · 31/08/2020 14:39

@MintyMabel

We have been back three weeks in Scotland and have already had a confirmed case at my child's high school and a localised outbreak. I am wondering how soon we will be back in lockdown

But, but other people haven't had that so it is apparently irrelevant and means it is all working just fine and anyone who thinks it won't in England is just being hysterical.

Alternatively, some of us accept that people getting it, including school kids, is kind of just par for the course when there’s an infectious virus around, and don’t see the point in panicking about it.
IloveJKRowling · 31/08/2020 14:40

And young people/kids are least at risk. Healthy kids or young people with healthy immune systems dont' die from Covid

Young people/kids are at risk of the impact on their lives of bereavement or disability in a parent. No-one seems to care about this though.

We need the Herd immunity. And this is best attained by young people getting it. And getting over it. And then they are the safest people in the uk, unable to transmit or to contract it!

we do not know that herd immunity is possible yet, we do not know that immunity will be long lasting. There are a number of reports of people catching it twice. We simply don't know yet.

TorysSuckRevokeArticle50 · 31/08/2020 14:44

@Lostinagoodbook we are unfortunately. DD went back to school Wednesday, we live just within the lockdown area, so we're not allowed to have anyone round to house or garden, we can meet a small number of people in public outdoor spaces like parks as long as we SD. We can't use softplay or leisure centres, or have facial treatments and the city council have decided to keep play parks locked as they can't clean often enough to make them safe.

But children can congregate in groups of 30 with no SD from each other and we have seen no SD from their teachers/TAs (I don't disagree with this btw, several of the kids were upset when they went back to school and they're little so they needed a hug).

www.gov.uk/guidance/leicester-lockdown-what-you-can-and-cannot-do

www.leicester.gov.uk/your-council/coronavirus/coronavirus-in-leicester-latest-news/common-questions-on-leicester-lockdown/

HorridHamble · 31/08/2020 14:45

@MintyMabel I hear you. I’m in Aberdeen and have drawn my own conclusions as to our lockdown.

BoggledBudgie · 31/08/2020 14:45

@MintyMabel or maybe other people just realise the virus isn’t half as dangerous as it was 6 months ago, and we can’t continue in lockdown endlessly? Maybe, just maybe other people are being a bit more rational than all the hysterical “what if-ers” and aren’t willing to sacrifice their mental health and wellbeing to pander to those that are still terrified?

IloveJKRowling · 31/08/2020 14:46

Friends in the US have their kids doing 2 days a week in school - all wearing masks all the time except when eating (at their individual desks), including the 5 year olds, they've all been given a laptop to take home and will do zoom / online learning the other days. Not private schools, state schools although I don't know the details of how it works there.

I think they stand a much better chance than us of schooling being uninterrupted. Our kids will be in and out all the time (if they're ill at all they'll have to stay home and test and the SD isn't good enough to prevent illnesses spreading, let alone covid). Yes, the US situation it's a childcare pain but at least they have some idea of which days they'll need childcare and can plan. We're just going to be yo-yo-ing and changing all the time and no-one will be able to plan.

MintyMabel · 31/08/2020 14:48

or maybe other people just realise the virus isn’t half as dangerous as it was 6 months ago, and we can’t continue in lockdown endlessly?

It is no less dangerous than it was 6 months ago.

Alternatively, some of us accept that people getting it, including school kids, is kind of just par for the course when there’s an infectious virus around, and don’t see the point in panicking about it.

How fortunate you have that luxury. Will you feel the same when one of your relatives dies?

MintyMabel · 31/08/2020 14:49

I’m in Aberdeen and have drawn my own conclusions as to our lockdown.

I have family up there. They have done too!

IloveJKRowling · 31/08/2020 14:56

Maybe, just maybe other people are being a bit more rational than all the hysterical “what if-ers” and aren’t willing to sacrifice their mental health and wellbeing to pander to those that are still terrified?

What this country is willing to sacrifice is people's lives, particularly the lives of vulnerable people and the elderly.

And the mental health of their family members which will be devastated - probably for life - by knowing that their family member died from a preventable disease.

Let's call a spade a spade. We have the one of the HIGHEST death rates per capita in the world, and it isn't over yet.

And some fairly simple measures which don't actually harm people in any way - social distancing mainly and mask wearing - could prevent a significant proportion of these deaths. South Korea still only have 324 coronavirus deaths - they all wear masks, have social distancing and mask wearing in schools and have decent testing. We have 40000 plus deaths.

Schools could be going back in a safe way. But they're not.

What we're willing to sacrifice is people's lives, it couldn't be clearer.

Holyrivolli · 31/08/2020 14:59

@IloveJKRowling do you honestly think two days a week of education is appropriate or sufficient for our children who for the vast vast majority are at tiny risk of being affected by this (likewise for their parents assuming they’re under 65)?

It’s crazy that some people are happy to accept their kids getting such a substandard education indefinitely. Likewise they would also be at risk of living in poverty as parents would be forced out of the workplace to cover this part time education.

Poverty is the number one indicator of negative educational and life expectancy so these children’s entire lives will be adversely affected in a misguided attempt to prevent spread of this virus.

Staffy1 · 31/08/2020 14:59

Worrying, but it seems inevitable that this is going to happen.

IloveJKRowling · 31/08/2020 15:04

It is 5 days a week school, 2 in the school building and 3 at home in a structured way with technology which is adequate provided by the state.

I think that 2 days a week in school and 3 days at home consistently is better than full time for a month then no school at all, probably with substandard home school materials because the teachers are sick. Or two weeks on, two weeks off as bubbles have to isolate, or individual kids.

I think consistency is better than chaos.

We have chaos.