Infectious disease killing 1.5 million every year!!!!

[ExmoorPony]

TB kills 1.5 million every single year. Just sayin......

I want there to be a word for people who do this. Maybe misery tourists.

People who only care about men's MH when they want to have a go at women. Only care about TB to make a point about COVID. Only care about working class people when they want to bash immigrants. Only care about the majority world when they want to hate the EU.

If you care about TB, do something about it. Don't use a terrible disease that kills vulnerable people to score points.

If we went completely back to normal, there’s a high risk that we’ll be back to where we were in April with Covid with deaths spiking again by October give that antibody levels are around 6% nationally.

www.gov.uk/government/publications/react-2-study-of-coronavirus-antibodies-june-2020-results/react-2-real-time-assessment-of-community-transmission-prevalence-of-coronavirus-covid-19-antibodies-in-june-2020

I appreciate that antibodies aren’t everything and the actual number having had Covid infections will likely be higher, but the fact that some hotspots have got to 60+% levels of antibodies suggests that we’re a long way from herd immunity.

Would that happen with current flu deaths?

No, as these are “flu & pneumonia” deaths, a catch all for respiratory deaths. Very few of these will be influenza (or similar) at present and are transmissible. Rather most will be pneumonia caused by a range of factors such as the streptococcus pneumoniae virus that lives in the respiratory tract of tens of millions of us perfectly harmlessly unless we become very fragile and ill.

Sorry, streptococcus pneumoniae is bacteria not a virus.

I disagree

Most people who would die have prob died already

Vast majority out and about now and despite increases in cases world wide admissions are still extremely low

@ExmoorPony - are you as engaging in real life as you are on this thread?
44.6 people today will die from Salsa dancing. Oh no, I just made that up.

@ExmoorPony

More people will die today from flu than covid 19. 30 men will die of prostate cancer today....

How many would have died from Covid without the restrictions/precautions?

1,456 people will die today from scuba diving in fancy dress costumes.
It's a travesty I tell you. Won't someone think of the children? Stop focusing on a boring pandemic and let's prevent more needless deaths caused by illegal underwater fancy dress gatherings.

@Vinoonasunnyday

I disagree

Most people who would die have prob died already

Vast majority out and about now and despite increases in cases world wide admissions are still extremely low

How do you work that out? There are millions of vulnerable and "only" 45k deaths in the UK. In some parts of the UK, covid never really happened (tiny numbers of infections/deaths), so the vulnerable people in those areas haven't yet been exposed to it.

@Vinoonasunnyday

So she had emphysema was on oxygen 87 and massive stroke but all you heard was covid?! She died of a stroke which is what doctor confirmed but they have to mention covid so it was a covid death but she didn’t die of it

No, it's not all that I heard. But Covid might well have contributed to the stroke or to her death.

If someone is stabbed and that causes an injury to an artery and they bleed to death they've died from blood loss. I doubt that anyone would be arguing that the actual cause of that death wasn't the stabbing though.

That's why the death certificate allows for a cause of death plus contributing factors.

@Vinoonasunnyday

Most people who would die have prob died already

Even though the evidence suggests that a very substantial portion of the population hasn’t been contracted it? (See earlier post).

And what about the 2.2 million who have been shielding since mid-March until recently (95% of whom say they abided closely to guidelines?

We have a tiny proportion of the population currently with Covid - mostly young at the moment - just like we did in January.... Roll on two months though?!

What you’re suggesting would be astonishingly irresponsible.

And that’s why we have a vaccine for it. If this concerns you OP perhaps you could campaign to make sure all countries have a vaccination programme.

If TB mutated to a strain that wasn’t protected by the vaccine, you’d see measures to stop spread

There’s vulnerable and then there were the shielding

Most people who shielded didn’t even need to shield

People just made their own rules up as they went along

All over Europe restrictions have been lifted since as early as May and admissions still haven’t risen

Cases yes but that’s because they’re testing the world and his wife

Looking at Europe tells us that admissions haven’t gone up

Many died through poor treatment and knowledge don’t forget

Most of the case home victims didn’t even make it to hospital never mind get treatment/test

Many governments have done poorly at handling this situation. A lot of overreaction and knee jerk policies.

@Vinoonasunnyday

You sound like you’re echoing what some on the US were saying a couple of months back.... That didn’t turn out well, so much so that even Trump-loving Republican Governors backed mask usage that’s far more pervasive than what we have currently in the U.K.

There’s vulnerable and then there were the shielding

The 2.2m is the shielding figure... The vulnerable is more like 15 million (ie adults who were entitled to flu vaccine).

@Vinoonasunnyday

There’s vulnerable and then there were the shielding

Most people who shielded didn’t even need to shield

People just made their own rules up as they went along

All over Europe restrictions have been lifted since as early as May and admissions still haven’t risen

Cases yes but that’s because they’re testing the world and his wife

A couple of million people received the shielding letters so they were the extremely clinically vulnerable. They were told to shield, and didn't take it upon themselves to do so.

In 2 years time, governments across the world will be "why did we trash our economies, for a relatively mild disease???"......

@ExmoorPony

In 2 years time, governments across the world will be "why did we trash our economies, for a relatively mild disease???"......

It's one of those threads. You shout at people while not addressing a single one of their points.

Super.

The OP isnt minimising Covid as far as I can see.

She's remarking on the fact the wealthy people in first world countries are losing their shit over Covid because it affects them, while they dont give a damn about diseases that kill way more people in the developing world.

Also, it appears some of you have not heard of antibiotic resistance.

Also, it appears some of you have not heard of antibiotic resistance.

I've not only heard of it, I've dealt with it in a homeless shelter. I still think the OP doesn't give a shit about TB, except in it's role as 'thing that isn't COVID to make a point'.

She may not give a shit about it. I don't know.

The point remains though. A lot of posters blithely describe TB as something which can be cured with antibiotics.

She could have used malaria as an example, another disease which kills huge numbers. None of them generally in the UK.

She could have used malaria as an example, another disease which kills huge numbers. None of them generally in the UK.

Which is why I posted the link upthread. Because I actually do care about malaria, unlike the many people who don't but use it as a gotcha. Again, I strongly suggest people donate to them. www.againstmalaria.com/ Very cost effective and they prevent many deaths.

@ExmoorPony

TB kills 1.5 million every single year. Just sayin......

....Therefore it's fine to cross the road without looking. Yeah we're heard it all before. Since you clearly haven't looked into it see the estimates for covid deaths if we were stupid enough to ignore it and not put the world into lockdown.

Why do you think I was addressing my comment to you specifically?

I was just making an observation.