Infectious disease killing 1.5 million every year!!!!

[ExmoorPony]

TB kills 1.5 million every single year. Just sayin......

Covid will have hit a million already anyway . A lot of those counters on Worldometers are in no way accurate, very much under reported and reported according to differing criteria . You only have to look at the news reports on places eg Yemen to realise that .

Agreed @professoryaffel. And if it’s got a death rate of 0.7% then it’s on the way to hundreds of millions having had it already

12 people out of the approx 1500 people who died in the last 24 hours died of covid.

Exmoor

That’s 12 people who died with Covid not from Covid

Plus only suspected Covid - not even have to have had a test!

@ExmoorPony

More people will die today from flu than covid 19. 30 men will die of prostate cancer today....

You have no way of knowing if this is true.

Steakhouse

The data has been released this week publically that more have died from flu than Covid the past month

And it’s summer!!

@Vinoonasunnyday

Steakhouse

The data has been released this week publically that more have died from flu than Covid the past month

And it’s summer!!

Is it just flu? Only data I've seen has been flu and pneumonia (all causes) which is very different from flu alone

I've always cared about TB. I bang on about a lot of issues affecting southern Africa, where I'm from. South African lockdown meant that many people went without their TB and HIV drugs unfortunately.
Mind you many also went withouth food.

@ExmoorPony

12 people out of the approx 1500 people who died in the last 24 hours died of covid.

Do you think that possibly the measures that have been bought in are the reason this is so low?

If we had not gone into lockdown, if we had not introduced social distancing, if we had not introduced masks and additional hygiene practices, if we had not protected the NHS from becoming overwhelmed, do you think the number would have been 12 or in the hundreds, or thousands?

Did the ONS give figures for just flu then? I can't seem to find it

@Vinoonasunnyday

Exmoor

That’s 12 people who died with Covid not from Covid

Plus only suspected Covid - not even have to have had a test!

The data reports clearly state that the people reported as dying from Covid have had a positive test result.

No they don’t.

Data states a Covid death is where Covid is mentioned on their death certificate

Doesn’t have to be proven

They don’t even have to have died from it

My friends mum had emphysema, was on mobile oxygen, had diabetes, was 87, then last month was admitted to hospital with massive stroke and died

But strangely her death is a covid death cos she tested positive afterwards

@Vinoonasunnyday

No they don’t.

Data states a Covid death is where Covid is mentioned on their death certificate

Doesn’t have to be proven

They don’t even have to have died from it

My friends mum had emphysema, was on mobile oxygen, had diabetes, was 87, then last month was admitted to hospital with massive stroke and died

But strangely her death is a covid death cos she tested positive afterwards

So she tested positive for Covid? How do you know that Covid wasn't the cause of death? Covid can cause strokes - maybe it did in this case?

@Vinoonasunnyday

No they don’t.

Data states a Covid death is where Covid is mentioned on their death certificate

Doesn’t have to be proven

They don’t even have to have died from it

My friends mum had emphysema, was on mobile oxygen, had diabetes, was 87, then last month was admitted to hospital with massive stroke and died

But strangely her death is a covid death cos she tested positive afterwards

Direct image of the government dashboard.

As you can see it says:

"Number of deaths of people who had had a positive test result for COVID-19 and died within 28 days of the first positive test. The actual cause of death may not be COVID-19 in all cases. People who died from COVID-19 but had not tested positive are not included and people who died from COVID-19 more than 28 days after their first positive test are not included. Data from the four nations are not directly comparable as methodologies and inclusion criteria vary."

Because she had a massive stroke and died on route to the hospital!

Nothing to do with covid.

Only last month they admitted that they collected data wrong

People who died after a positive test - even if months later, where a covid death

So people who literally (was a proven example) died in car crash but had covid and recovered earlier in year were still a covid death!

Most will have had covid but most wont have died from it exclusively

If you test the entire population many prob carrying it -as they’re seeing abroad now - huge numbers due to increased testing but no increased admissions so asymptomatic

Many died of other things but covid in their system it’s a farce

I’m going by ons data but still all these covid deaths on that site won’t be caused by covid

Same way most flu deaths are not really caused by flu

@Vinoonasunnyday

Because she had a massive stroke and died on route to the hospital!

Nothing to do with covid.

Only last month they admitted that they collected data wrong

People who died after a positive test - even if months later, where a covid death

So people who literally (was a proven example) died in car crash but had covid and recovered earlier in year were still a covid death!

Most will have had covid but most wont have died from it exclusively

If you test the entire population many prob carrying it -as they’re seeing abroad now - huge numbers due to increased testing but no increased admissions so asymptomatic

Many died of other things but covid in their system it’s a farce

But Covid can cause strokes so this stroke might have been as a result of the Covid infection.

The issue of people being killed by a bus in June having had Covid in March has already been debunked and even if it happened the numbers are very small and more than compensated for by the number of people who died with covid but without having been diagnosed with Covid and therefore not counted

@ExmoorPony

12 people out of the approx 1500 people who died in the last 24 hours died of covid.

No one knows yet how many died in the past 24 hours, it can take weeks to know that figure.

You may be confusing it with the number of deaths reported in the last 24 hours

So she had emphysema was on oxygen 87 and massive stroke but all you heard was covid?! She died of a stroke which is what doctor confirmed but they have to mention covid so it was a covid death but she didn’t die of it

People do understand. The point is that this isn’t going to be every year. Covid will be brought under control like other pandemics and drift into the background. Meanwhile people will still be dying in their millions of diseases that are preventable and curable

There will also be an extensive death toll from non-Covid illness due to Covid. Whether it be economically related, mental health or not being able to get treatment for other illnesses.

We obviously had to lock down to slow the spread initially so the hospitals were able to cope. Since then though we've had the temporary hospitals lying empty and more people are dying of Flu in the UK at the moment.

Malaria kills a million people every year. I care deeply about it and donate money to mosquito net charities. This www.againstmalaria.com/ charity is great.

That doesn't mean COVID won't cause ADDITIONAL DEATHS in the majority world. It will. TB and malaria are already killing people and more people will die (probably of all three because of comorbidity).

So it your point that COVID doesn't matter (thick as mince) or that we should do more about TB (not thick as mince)? In which case, what should be done?

@Vinoonasunnyday

Whereas it’s true that some people have died with Covid on their death certificate whose primary cause of death was something else, this is a distinct minority as per the following ONS quote: “In the majority of cases (46,736 deaths, 92.8%) where COVID-19 was mentioned on the death certificate, it was found to be the underlying cause of death.”

www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/bulletins/deathsinvolvingcovid19englandandwales/deathsoccurringinjune2020

In 2018, flu and pneumonia killed slightly less than 15,000 people.

Covid-19 has killed over 41,000 people in less than 6 months.

www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/causesofdeath/articles/leadingcausesofdeathuk/2001to2018

Ffs this again. Bore off OP or read all the other threads worded exactly the same?

Well let's end SD and lockdowns and quarantine then if people are so keen to see Covid deaths hit the same level as flu/TB/cancer deaths.

Cos flu/TB/cancer ain't going down so I can only imagine the whataboutery is because they want Covid to catch up 🤷‍♀️