Will Trick or treating go ahead this year ?

[CustardyCreams]

Just thinking ahead, do you think trick or treating will be banned this Halloween due to COVID-19? It is an outdoor activity, but knocking on doors and grabbing sweets from a bowl... hmmm.

I bloody hope so im having a Halloween themed house party!

I've been really worried about this. My kids absolutely love Halloween and trick or treating. They'll be sad not to do it, but I'm not sure, and I expect a lot of people won't be doing it ... we'll still decorate the house and let them invite a friend each for a tiny Halloween party.

@SirSamuelVimesBlackboardMonito

Shielding is officially over right now. Everything else in your post has nothing to do with Covid. I have a lot of sympathy for her being in an area with people who use Halloween as an excuse to be dicks, but there's nothing about that situation that is unique to this year.

Again, using Covid as an excuse to ban things you don't like is shitty behaviour, and may backfire on you when it's something you enjoy that's suddenly under the Covid ban-hammer.

Well my "shitty behaviour' is because I dont want an elderly frail person exposed to people knocking on her door when she has been cofined for months, it has everything to do with covid, which is what makes it unique this year! Going without door knocking at neighbours isnt going to harm your children, you are welcome to have your private parties, but please dont accuse other members of society as being shitty when they are trying to stay safe in their own homes.

Oh and as for shielding being over, her consultant has recommended she continues, as her carer with a daughter working schools I can assure you that plenty that I would like to do has been " banned"; dont assume you know everyone's situation.

Flu is currently killing about five times as many people a week as Covid. Were you demanding everyone stay away last year, or in 2018 when flu killed 50,000 people? Doubt it.

People who don't like Halloween or who cannot accurately assess risk want trick or treaters to be seen as plague carriers. It's wrong and it's another example of children being expected to "get over it" and carry a disproportionate burden of our collective overreaction to a virus that is, for the vast majority of people, a mild respiratory illness.

For the people who can't understand why people are thinking about this or why it is a big deal. My children honestly get more excited about Halloween than Christmas. They ask on a very regular basis how long until Halloween. I don't feel the same myself so it's not like we make a huge deal about it as a family, but they are all the same, it is a huge deal for a lot of children.

@SirSamuelVimesBlackboardMonito

Flu is currently killing about five times as many people a week as Covid. Were you demanding everyone stay away last year, or in 2018 when flu killed 50,000 people? Doubt it.

People who don't like Halloween or who cannot accurately assess risk want trick or treaters to be seen as plague carriers. It's wrong and it's another example of children being expected to "get over it" and carry a disproportionate burden of our collective overreaction to a virus that is, for the vast majority of people, a mild respiratory illness.

Sorry you don't understand statistics: the flu deaths you cite are mostly pneumonia fatalities, and most of those are likely co-morbid with CORVID. Your complete over-reaction to one poster's very sane desire to protect her vulnerable elderly parent on ONE EVENING is absurd. Halloween can be celebrated in many ways other than knocking on multiple doors.

Hopefully it won't, without being a Scrooge it's one tradition I really hate hah. Plenty of ways to still make it fun though, but for your own children without expecting others to buy them.

@SirSamuelVimesBlackboardMonito

Flu is currently killing about five times as many people a week as Covid. Were you demanding everyone stay away last year, or in 2018 when flu killed 50,000 people? Doubt it.

People who don't like Halloween or who cannot accurately assess risk want trick or treaters to be seen as plague carriers. It's wrong and it's another example of children being expected to "get over it" and carry a disproportionate burden of our collective overreaction to a virus that is, for the vast majority of people, a mild respiratory illness.

No because she has a flu vaccination. There is no vaccine for covid and it is likely to cause death or severe illness in her condition. Can't you just accept that people who wish to stay indoors should be allowed to do so without others forcing themselves on them? People rant about being allowed to get on without those pesky vulnerable people stopping them living and they should stay in their homes to facilitate that, but it seems even people doing that have to put up with others selfish behaviour in not allowing them to have privacy in their own home without complaint.

I'll put some sweets out, hope it goes ahead. Mines at an age now where he'll understand it

Can't you just accept that people who wish to stay indoors should be allowed to do so without others forcing themselves on them

Absolutely. But that's not what's being hoped for on here. People want kids to miss out again - they want Halloween cancelled. In your mum's case, either stick out a note saying "please don't knock, shielding due to medical vulnerability" (with some sweets left out if you want) or go round to her house for the night and do the door yourself.

@SirSamuelVimesBlackboardMonito

It's wrong and it's another example of children being expected to "get over it" and carry a disproportionate burden

Completely agree with this.

I have every sympathy with people who don't want to be knocked on Halloween. But that is an issue every year.

Round here people generally only knock on those with decorations out.

Children have missed out on so much. Can we stop pretending they don't matter please.

@SirSamuelVimesBlackboardMonito

Can't you just accept that people who wish to stay indoors should be allowed to do so without others forcing themselves on them

Absolutely. But that's not what's being hoped for on here. People want kids to miss out again - they want Halloween cancelled. In your mum's case, either stick out a note saying "please don't knock, shielding due to medical vulnerability" (with some sweets left out if you want) or go round to her house for the night and do the door yourself.

You talk like people are actively seizing every opportunity to kick children in the guts ... A quiet Hallowe'en one year? What's wrong with that?

It's a pandemic and we have to carefully climb our way out of it.

Close schools
Close sports centres
Close playgrounds
Close swimming pools
Close activity groups (scouts, guides etc)
Close soft play
Close baby & toddler groups
Close before & after school clubs
Close holiday clubs
Cancel birthday parties
Cancel Halloween
Cancel fireworks night
Cancel Santa's grotto
Cancel Christmas discos/parties.

Yeah the kids haven't been kicked in the shitter by this at all.

@TheClaws

A quiet Halloween one year, along with everything else.

There are plenty of ways, as has been demonstrated in this thread, to ensure kids can still go trick or treating and keep a safe distance.

@SirSamuelVimesBlackboardMonito

Close schools Close sports centres Close playgrounds Close swimming pools Close activity groups (scouts, guides etc) Close soft play Close baby & toddler groups Close before & after school clubs Close holiday clubs Cancel birthday parties Cancel Halloween Cancel fireworks night Cancel Santa's grotto Cancel Christmas discos/parties.

Yeah the kids haven't been kicked in the shitter by this at all.

What she said.

And, @SirSamuelVimesBlackboardMonito did you realise that those deaths you mentioned, that are currently being caused by flu, are actually being caused by covid, according to TheClaws. Yeah, we all know the ONLY important deaths are covid deaths - flu deaths don't count, and of course, all the doctors are putting the wrong cause of death on the death certificate deliberately, or possibly because they didn't really know what the deceased was suffering from (but TheClaws does).

Oh I forgot a couple:

Cancel nativity plays
Cancel school concerts
Cancel school trips

A street in my town that does it as an arranged event has already said it's not going ahead this year. That's the go-to place round here and you don't see many trick or treaters about anywhere else.

@SirSamuelVimesBlackboardMonito I agree with you.

As for Claws claim about pneumonia deaths - peop,e die of pneumonia every day of every month of every year. Often called the old mans friend as it brings an end to a lot of suffering.

@DobbyTheHouseElk

The local fireworks here are cancelled.

Good. They all should be.

@SirSamuelVimesBlackboardMonito

Oh I forgot a couple:

Cancel nativity plays
Cancel school concerts
Cancel school trips

Unfortunately no need for reminders as these may sadly be cancelled too as naturally not very Covid social distancing compliant.

Therefore the more normal fun and social children events that are canceled the more we need to make up for it in other Covid safe ways. We of course need to ensure we have a balance and respect those who are medically vulnerable too. Halloween and Christmas is going to come early and happen with a Big Bang in my household as my child has missed out on so much like usual global adventure holidays etc so will double down on gifts! It's little consolation for a crap Covid year so far but to celebrate being fit and healthy but respectful to those less fortunate and do our bit for civic duty and community spirit by spending more in the local economy.

Im guessing it won't go ahead. My kids (4 and 6), have already informed me that they will be trick or treating at our house however. So I fear I will be answering the door and dispensing sweets to them for a chunk of the evening 😂

I'm just keeping my fingers crossed animal crossing has a Halloween update with trick or treating, and we can do it on there 😄

@Reedwarbler

And, *@SirSamuelVimesBlackboardMonito* did you realise that those deaths you mentioned, that are currently being caused by flu, are actually being caused by covid, according to TheClaws. Yeah, we all know the ONLY important deaths are covid deaths - flu deaths don't count, and of course, all the doctors are putting the wrong cause of death on the death certificate deliberately, or possibly because they didn't really know what the deceased was suffering from (but TheClaws does).

Thanks Reedwarbler! I actually read (and appreciate) science and know that categorised 'flu' deaths out of season can usually be attributed to pneumonia for other reasons. This often repeated "only covid deaths count" immediately discounts your post for me - plus your idiocy about doctors and medical certificates.

I couldn't care less if all you deniers pile in on me for defending the other poster. (BTW: nice echo chamber thread you've got going over there.)

I hope trick or treating still goes ahead and can't see any reason why it wouldn't just because of bloody Covid. Seriously, enough already.

Of course, those who do not wish to take part would not decorate their houses or answer the door. No problem.