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Not doing quarantine properly.

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irishheartenglishblood · 18/08/2020 21:55

DH spoke to a friend earlier who arrived back from France at 4pm on Sat, so 12hrs after quarantine started.
Said friend and family are going to WFH, but are planning on daily trips to the park, a once weekly trip to the supermarket, and to meet up with family next week.
DF firmly believes their behaviour is within keeping of the quarantine rules.

I'm quite torn. On the one hand, it seems quite arbitrary. On the other hand, if everyone who is supposed to be quarantining does this then it probably increases risk. But then they may have been staying in areas where the infection rate was lower than here. I think that was the case for DH's friend.

Thoughts?

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Miner49er · 18/08/2020 23:10

Its purpose is not the same as when we were trying to reduce community infection. The quarantine basically assumes you have been in contact with the virus, so you may actually have it. You need to stay at home until you are clear. If everyone coming back from holiday behaves selfishly and goes out into the community, there will be a big uptick of infection.

There's not really any grey area on this. It's clear what is okay and what is not.

InDeoEstMeaFiducia · 18/08/2020 23:17

@InDeoEstMeaFiducia this post is about the France quarantine.

That may have been so, but as only HQ can control how threads go and someone brought up local lockdowns, I responded Hmm. It's the nature of the board, you can't control what people post other than posts that break Talk Guidelines.

InDeoEstMeaFiducia · 18/08/2020 23:20

@rosesandcashmere

I did quarantine properly after Spain (family visit to Marbella to see elderly relative not a holiday) - not a single person checked I was actually quarantining. I was expecting at least a call!
What's the point in a call if you don't have a landline? You could be anywhere. They never contacted us, either. They don't have the manpower to see to day-to-day non-Covid events, public services have all been so eroded by 10 years of Tory government.
AugustBreeze · 18/08/2020 23:31

FWIW there is a couple of other threads on here which have on them many examples of people being rung up to check what they were doing and how they were....

InDeoEstMeaFiducia · 18/08/2020 23:33

@AugustBreeze

FWIW there is a couple of other threads on here which have on them many examples of people being rung up to check what they were doing and how they were....
The one where the poster's friend had Border Control come to hers and install cameras at all the entrances to their house was classic!
CityCommuter · 18/08/2020 23:44

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mrshoho · 18/08/2020 23:53

Honestly I would just let it go. if they'd got back 12 hours earlier they wouldn't have to quarantine and do you really think that extra 12 hours has put them at any higher risk?

Chloemol · 19/08/2020 00:12

They are not doing quarantine properly, and tbh are incredibly selfish if they do what they say they are going to. I am amazed your husband thinks what they intend to do is within the rules. Perhaps point him in the direction of the gov.uk website

But this is going to happen time and again as people don’t believe any of the rules for anything relate to them

TW2013 · 19/08/2020 00:24

I would probably explain to dh what the actual rules are and point him in the direction of the guidelines. Suggest that he might be doing his friend a favour in terms of saving them from being fined if he alerts him to the different rules from the original lockdown and maybe offer to get some shopping in for them.

DamitJanet · 19/08/2020 06:53

They’re not quarantining, it’s not a pick n mix style thing. All too common an attitude though given many of the replies on here, which I find worrying but hope I’m wrong.

SmileEachDay · 19/08/2020 08:26

Would the people on this thread saying “meh, their business” take the same approach to households self isolating if someone is symptomatic?

Or are you all just going to send your children into school anyway? That’s a massive concern if so, and is a real threat to schools managing to stay open.

InDeoEstMeaFiducia · 19/08/2020 08:34

@SmileEachDay

Would the people on this thread saying “meh, their business” take the same approach to households self isolating if someone is symptomatic?

Or are you all just going to send your children into school anyway? That’s a massive concern if so, and is a real threat to schools managing to stay open.

Symptomatic doesn't necessarily mean it's Covid. It could be something else. You can have other viruses. No one cares, though, unless it's Covid.
SmileEachDay · 19/08/2020 08:35

InDeoEstMeaFiducia

So does that mean you think people should not self isolate?

Miner49er · 19/08/2020 08:43

Symptomatic means get a test. Then you'll know if it is Covid 19 or not.

InDeoEstMeaFiducia · 19/08/2020 08:46

@SmileEachDay

InDeoEstMeaFiducia

So does that mean you think people should not self isolate?

You're supposed to get a test if you are symptomatic Hmm. If you don't want a test, you self-isolate.
SmileEachDay · 19/08/2020 08:47

Symptomatic means get a test. Then you'll know if it is Covid 19 or not

And what should the other members of your household do whilst this is organised?

InDeoEstMeaFiducia · 19/08/2020 08:48

@SmileEachDay

Symptomatic means get a test. Then you'll know if it is Covid 19 or not

And what should the other members of your household do whilst this is organised?

They all get a test. It doesn't take much time to organise Hmm.
SmileEachDay · 19/08/2020 09:23

They all get a test. It doesn't take much time to organise hmm

About 3 days from test to results on average. What do you think the household should do whilst waiting? Isolate? Go to school as normal?

TheGreatWave · 19/08/2020 09:30

@SmileEachDay

They all get a test. It doesn't take much time to organise hmm

About 3 days from test to results on average. What do you think the household should do whilst waiting? Isolate? Go to school as normal?

Isolate, as the guidelines have always been.
SmileEachDay · 19/08/2020 09:50

Isolate, as the guidelines have always been

Yes. I know that. I’m interested in what the people who are pooh poohing the quarantine rules will do.

InDeoEstMeaFiducia · 19/08/2020 10:11

@SmileEachDay

Isolate, as the guidelines have always been

Yes. I know that. I’m interested in what the people who are pooh poohing the quarantine rules will do.

'Pooh-pooh'ing doesn't mean I'd not do it myself. I think it's ridiculous, however, and wouldn't do anything about anyone I knew to not be doing it, which is no one, because anyone who has a brain in their heads wouldn't advertise that they weren't following it, except on MN, where they are legion.

It won't work, however. People won't be able to keep isolating over and over for 2 weeks anytime someone coughs.

SmileEachDay · 19/08/2020 10:20

It won't work, however. People won't be able to keep isolating over and over for 2 weeks anytime someone coughs

They don’t need to - they need to isolate, test then only continue to isolate if it is positive. That’s the point of the “world beating” test, track and trace.

If people don’t do this, and send their kids into school, schools are going to end up closing/bubbles will have to isolate etc.

cantdothisnow1 · 19/08/2020 11:31

I can't believe more people are NOT objecting to Q14. Especially the fact that you cannot exercise in the fresh air. That's draconian and even at the height of the pandemic we were urged to exercise.

Where is the evidence that healthy people locking themselves indoors for 14 days is NECESSARY to protect public health.

Juststopswimming · 19/08/2020 12:59

@cantdothisnow1

I can't believe more people are NOT objecting to Q14. Especially the fact that you cannot exercise in the fresh air. That's draconian and even at the height of the pandemic we were urged to exercise.

Where is the evidence that healthy people locking themselves indoors for 14 days is NECESSARY to protect public health.

I agree with this. The erosion of our civil liberties and the acceptance of such draconian measures for such a very small risk is terrifying for society, not to mention the snitching culture that has risen its ugly head as a result.

It would be interesting to see the statistics of the number of people who come back from quarantine locations who actually have caught Covid on their holiday; I would be willing to bet it is no worse than for those who have staycationed (and before I get jumped on, I bet both are miniscule risks)

InDeoEstMeaFiducia · 19/08/2020 13:13

@cantdothisnow1

I can't believe more people are NOT objecting to Q14. Especially the fact that you cannot exercise in the fresh air. That's draconian and even at the height of the pandemic we were urged to exercise.

Where is the evidence that healthy people locking themselves indoors for 14 days is NECESSARY to protect public health.

I agree totally. OTT the no going out at all. It's punishment, cant, punishment for daring to go abroad, with full support of the sheeple here, because this government has shown quite clearly for the past ten years that they do not give a flying fuck about public health at all. Zero. NOT.AT.ALL.
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