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If You Could Choose Any Education Option for Sept

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IDSNeighbour · 14/08/2020 22:54

I'm getting so confused by what parents actually want to happen with schools right now (I'm not a parent, I'm a teacher). I want to know what home opinions my classes are going to be coming in from in Sept - whether they're likely to be nervous or confident, whether they will want to SD or not, etc.

I know parents aren't one hive mind but the 'loudest voice' seems to keep changing its mind. Or I hear different ones, idk.

I'm sure there used to be a board for polls and surveys but, if I wasn't imagining, I can't find it.

So, if you're up for an unscientific straw poll to help me gauge general feeling, can you post A, B, C, D or E in the thread (you can explain if you like, I don't mind!)
A - I want full time schooling as close to the old normal as is allowed
B - I want full time schooling but with safety measures such as social distancing and masks for all who can and are old enough.
C - I want blended learning (half in the classroom and half online)
D - I want to keep my child at home all the time, home school them and not be penalised (ie, I want my place back when I think it's safe)
E - I think schools should remain closed for most children for now.

OP posts:
askmehowiknow · 15/08/2020 22:19

[quote coconutwhip]@askmehowiknow How many teachers would need to get infected for a school to close.

Depends on the size of the school and age group of the children. For my school probably 6-7 teachers for it to become unworkable. Of course you can get subs but this wouldn't be sustainable in the long run. Let's also remember that any TA's would technically be required to quarantine as they would have been in close proximity with said teacher.
For the other school in my area maybe 10-13 teachers.
Depends if for example one teacher gets covid and that day are in the staff room for a substantial number of mins with the other teachers then technically you are supposed to quarantine. [/quote]
If 6-7 teachers contract CV within a school then they have not been adhering to guidelines

coconutwhip · 15/08/2020 22:19

@askmehowiknow what a load of rubbish. Standing with lots of children in close proximity. No masks...
get a grip

noblegiraffe · 15/08/2020 22:20

So you admit that teachers getting sick will have consequences for schools opening fully, that at least some children may need to be sent home and therefore to ensure a full and continual provision of education we should take measures that seek to prevent teachers from getting sick?

Excellent, ask, you don’t agree with A after all.

monkeytennis97 · 15/08/2020 22:22

@askmehowiknow 'they have not been following guidelines'. I've never done this before... ODFOD

askmehowiknow · 15/08/2020 22:23

[quote coconutwhip]@askmehowiknow what a load of rubbish. Standing with lots of children in close proximity. No masks...
get a grip [/quote]
Please enlighten me how teachers are infecting each other?

monkeytennis97 · 15/08/2020 22:24

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Iamnotthe1 · 15/08/2020 22:25

@askmehowiknow
If 6-7 teachers contract CV within a school then they have not been adhering to guidelines

Sorry, probably my fault, but I've missed the guideline that prevents any transmission of the virus in an educational setting. Please could you direct me to it?

WhenSheWasBad · 15/08/2020 22:27

I hope I haven't started anything that's going to cause actual trouble for anyone

I think this is a great thread IDSNeighbour

The main thing it shows is that virtually no one want option E (schools shouldn’t reopen).

Just seems to be a disagreement between the As (just open up the schools and it will all be fine). And the more cautious people who think varying degrees of caution are required to stop Covid spreading again.

coconutwhip · 15/08/2020 22:27

@askmehowiknow sorry you do realise that it is not impossible for children to pass on the virus to teachers? Same way as if teachers are standing in a room with rubbish ventilation it does not eliminate the chances either.
I think you know all this though you're just being ridiculously goady

askmehowiknow · 15/08/2020 22:30

[quote coconutwhip]@askmehowiknow sorry you do realise that it is not impossible for children to pass on the virus to teachers? Same way as if teachers are standing in a room with rubbish ventilation it does not eliminate the chances either.
I think you know all this though you're just being ridiculously goady[/quote]
Sure. But 2 kids infected means bubble closes in theory. The chances of 6-7 teachers having been infected in that time is minuscule. Unless they are not SD in staff room etc. Which is a much greater risk

coconutwhip · 15/08/2020 22:31

@askmehowiknow oh my mistake it seems you actually have no clue at al what your talking about.
Here have a Biscuit

monkeytennis97 · 15/08/2020 22:34

@askmehowiknow or if they are secondary teachers....

Ickabog · 15/08/2020 22:35

Sure. But 2 kids infected means bubble closes in theory.

No it doesn't

If schools have two or more confirmed cases within 14 days they may have an outbreak...In some cases, health protection teams may recommend that a larger number of other pupils self-isolate at home as a precautionary measure – perhaps the whole site or year group.

boon · 15/08/2020 22:35

B

askmehowiknow · 15/08/2020 22:35

[quote coconutwhip]@askmehowiknow oh my mistake it seems you actually have no clue at al what your talking about.
Here have a Biscuit[/quote]
Ha ha

Teachers don't self isolate if a bubble closes. Only if they have symptoms

I wonder how 6 or 7 teachers In one school would get symptoms at the same time

Obviously asking this question deserves a Biscuitthough!

askmehowiknow · 15/08/2020 22:36

@Ickabog

Sure. But 2 kids infected means bubble closes in theory.

No it doesn't

If schools have two or more confirmed cases within 14 days they may have an outbreak...In some cases, health protection teams may recommend that a larger number of other pupils self-isolate at home as a precautionary measure – perhaps the whole site or year group.

Correct
Heathershimmer95 · 15/08/2020 22:38

Hang on I thought children got mild asymptomatic cases mostly. So surely it’s perfectly possible to see 6 adult cases in the time it takes for an outbreak to give 2 children symptoms.

monkeytennis97 · 15/08/2020 22:38

@askmehowiknow if they are secondary teachers it would be very possible for 6/7 teachers to come across those pupils who were positive. That's without thinking about siblings in different year group bubbles.

Ickabog · 15/08/2020 22:39

Correct

Nice to see you admit you were wrong in saying 2 cases will close a bubble.

Alittleodd · 15/08/2020 22:39

Oh dear. I think I might need to see if I can get a partial refund on my degree. Apparently they taught me the units on immunology entirely incorrectly! I am learning so much from all the well informed people who like to haunt the education threads.

Good thing I'm not teaching science any more. Apparently I didn't understand it.

askmehowiknow · 15/08/2020 22:42

[quote monkeytennis97]@askmehowiknow if they are secondary teachers it would be very possible for 6/7 teachers to come across those pupils who were positive. That's without thinking about siblings in different year group bubbles.[/quote]
But if 2 children close a bubble. It would be incredibly unlikely that 6 or 7 teachers then get infected from just those 2 children

Alittleodd · 15/08/2020 22:44

But @askmehowiknow how do you know that?

askmehowiknow · 15/08/2020 22:46

Look at the evidence we have so far

monkeytennis97 · 15/08/2020 22:51

I'm done for today with this. Night all!

Alittleodd · 15/08/2020 22:52

Whoosh

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