If You Could Choose Any Education Option for Sept

[IDSNeighbour]

I'm getting so confused by what parents actually want to happen with schools right now (I'm not a parent, I'm a teacher). I want to know what home opinions my classes are going to be coming in from in Sept - whether they're likely to be nervous or confident, whether they will want to SD or not, etc.

I know parents aren't one hive mind but the 'loudest voice' seems to keep changing its mind. Or I hear different ones, idk.

I'm sure there used to be a board for polls and surveys but, if I wasn't imagining, I can't find it.

So, if you're up for an unscientific straw poll to help me gauge general feeling, can you post A, B, C, D or E in the thread (you can explain if you like, I don't mind!)
A - I want full time schooling as close to the old normal as is allowed
B - I want full time schooling but with safety measures such as social distancing and masks for all who can and are old enough.
C - I want blended learning (half in the classroom and half online)
D - I want to keep my child at home all the time, home school them and not be penalised (ie, I want my place back when I think it's safe)
E - I think schools should remain closed for most children for now.

askmehowiknow
Don't teachers realise that Brexit is as damaging for the younger generation as not educating them? I'm genuinely surprised.

Most teachers won't have voted for brexit. Also you miss my point.

Also loving their interpretation of the data. I guess what would I know though

Why? the data shows that more posters don't want A than want it.

To say anything else would be mansplaining. or teachsplaining? maybe.

@FrippEnos

A question for all those voting A

If this fails

Who are you going to blame for

1/ It failing
and
2/ There being no back up plan?

I'm not going to blame anyone. Pointing angry fingers of blame gets nothing done and helps no one. It might fail, but at least it was tried.

[quote SquirrelPants84]@IDSNeighbour
D - We haven't done all this, put in all this effort to stay safe, only to be forced to undo it all, for reasons I cannot fathom (surely not just for the economy?)
With the numbers rising daily, above 1,000 and four schools in Scotland reporting cases, after being open in less than a week, it is clearly not safe to open schools fully yet.[/quote]
THIS!!!

SquirrelPants84

Interesting that the boycott school opening group has 6.7K members and us4them England only has 3.3K

@Starlightstarbright1 yes I can’t understand this at all. Soft play is crazy - I feel for the business owners but this high risk. So are pubs with little ventilation. Even if they restricted opening hours and made them have a minimum ventilation it would help.

And most crucially of all test and trace - with a working APP - I cant tell you how much of a difference this would make to the safety of schools if it worked well. But it doesn’t.

@toolatetooearly thank you for responding.

What @toolatetooearly said was perfect.

@FrippEnos

SquirrelPants84

Interesting that the boycott school opening group has 6.7K members and us4them England only has 3.3K

Yeah. Boycotting schools. Great for children right 👍

askmehowiknow

All I am saying is that the us4them is not the only group out there,
Also they have fewer members than the other group.

So I am not saying boycott schools, which you are twisting it in to.

@askmehowiknow * 3.3K

Yeah. Boycotting schools. Great for children right The groups aim is not for schools not to open its for them to open safety. It’s boycott opening of unsafe Schools not boycott the opening of schools.

[quote AldiAisleofCrap]**@askmehowiknow* 3.3K

Yeah. Boycotting schools. Great for children right The groups aim is not for schools not to open its for them to open safety. It’s boycott opening of unsafe Schools not boycott the opening of schools.[/quote]
Well we already know it's safe for children. We already know that adults are able to go the pub etc

I guess it depends who we put first

Boycott return to unsafe schools (BRTUS) group is not about keeping schools closed, it's about giving us the parents (and teachers) a choice! Take a look at the actual group and you will see a whole world of information, conversation, support and more.
As it stand we are being FORCED by threat of fines (aka bullied by the government) into sending our children into school, whether it is safe to do so or not. (It clearly isn't) All we're asking is that it is our choice, that schools are much, much safer, by smaller class sizes - staggered days/online learning mix. and a little more besides. (see BRTUS traffic light system)
You can recover a year of education - you can not recover a death of a child (or any loved one)

But yes. Adults. Please stop your children from going to school for the greater good.

A

@SquirrelPants84

Boycott return to unsafe schools (BRTUS) group is not about keeping schools closed, it's about giving us the parents (and teachers) a choice! Take a look at the actual group and you will see a whole world of information, conversation, support and more. As it stand we are being FORCED by threat of fines (aka bullied by the government) into sending our children into school, whether it is safe to do so or not. (It clearly isn't) All we're asking is that it is our choice, that schools are much, much safer, by smaller class sizes - staggered days/online learning mix. and a little more besides. (see BRTUS traffic light system) You can recover a year of education - you can not recover a death of a child (or any loved one)

Deregister if you are able to home educate. Send your kids to school if you're not

A

That doesn't have to be the choice. It may not be in our children's best interest to de-register. But thanks for the (inappropriate) advice.

@askmehowiknow
Well we already know it's safe for children.

No, you believe that it's safe for children based upon the information that you have chosen to believe. You cannot "know" this without any possible room for doubt or alternative perspectives and to claim so makes it sound like the level of fanatical thinking you see from die-hard Trump supporters or conspiracy theorists.

Also, pub goers have the choice...we parents and children are being given none....further to this, since the opening of pubs etc. we are seeing a rapid increase in numbers, over 1.000 a day! higher than when lockdown was announced! So much for 'putting on the brakes'.

How do we know going to schools is safe?

A number of pubs have closed because of outbreaks, the same will happen with schools, not permanently but probably very cyclical if other measures are not put in place. How disruptive will that be for children and their parents.

@askmehowiknow

Well we already know it's safe for children.

We know that it may be safe for children below ten, We know that children over ten spread the virus like adults. and that the older the child the more likely they are to spread it like adults.

We already know that adults are able to go the pub etc

And we know that pubs have had to close and have been the centre of several outbreaks.
Goes to show how sensible these adults were.

I guess it depends who we put first

And we are back to
If we don't do this correctly the first time then schools will close. (bojo can't stop this) and children will be even more adversely affected.

And I for one don't want children to go through the same shit that the current year 11s and 13s are going through.

C or D for us. I think a full return to school is risky.

And we know that pubs have had to close and have been the centre of several outbreaks.
Goes to show how sensible these adults were.

Most haven't though! A small minority which may also happen with schools.

Please remind me how many children have died. Out of the millions who have been infected. Who will argue this disease is a risk to children? It's not.

D. Give people the choice.