Soft play etc opening!

[Piixxiiee]

15th August softplay, ice rinks, more beauty salons,indoor events etc..... not sure what to think of that move.

Wearing gloves in an ice rink is very unlikely to give protection because it's the kind of scenario where people act normally in gloves, touching face, the sides of the rink, other surface etc.

I agree with opening them for training and lessons and see how that goes. It spreads more in the cold so I'd try that before opening for busier public sessions. Maybe some rinks will do that anyway.

Soft play must be fine surely, we know small kids don't spread Covid.

Although im not sure its a good idea or safe im dying to take my little one hes very active but can't walk yet he needs a softplay as hes trying to climb up everything. Also the classes i miss so much i can't wait. If nurseries and schools can open then so can soft play and classes if they do booking sessions only and clean before each one and limit the amount that can come in one time then it will be fine if adults all wear masks also. Plus the poor businesses need this otherwise they all going to shut for good.

It's believed that smaller kids have milder symptoms than adults but the jury is out on spread. Some say they don't spread it as much, some say they spread it more. Even then, the studies that say they don't spread it as much say this under the assumption there will be social distancing not business as usual. And it's about the worry of it then spreading to staff and parents etc too.

There's no social distancing in schools though so what's the difference? If schools are opening then these businesses should be able to start making money

mummyoflittledragon Not sure if it was me you meant to tag or not; I didn't make any analogies? I do think beauty treatments seem much riskier than hairdressers though because you're often hovering right above someone's face and getting very close. As are dentists, I know but a) I didn't actually realise dentists were open for anything other than emergencies yet and b) they're essential and beauty salons aren't. Personally, I wouldn't be going to a hairdressers, a beauty salon otmr a dentist (unless I had toothache) right now.

Faithinwashing it depends what you're scared of. I accept there is a risk I'll catch the virus and that's fine with me. But my anxieties around these places opening are that it will lead to us being back in lockdown and the thought of going through that again is just horrifying. And my anxieties about going to myself are about passing the virus on to ancient grandparents.

@hedgehogger1

There's no social distancing in schools though so what's the difference? If schools are opening then these businesses should be able to start making money

Because if the virus spreads very widely people will catch it.

So schools with no SD might be possible in Scotland where rates are lower.

But if the rates get higher in England schools will be shut again.

Opening soft play makes it more likely schools will shut imo.

"There's no social distancing in schools though so what's the difference? If schools are opening then these businesses should be able to start making money"

Actually the opposite is true. Because there is no distancing in schools, we need to be more careful everywhere else. As the experts have said. That's why this is a bad idea IMO.

In short, if you don't want to go into lockdown again, if you don't want schools to close......... this is a bad idea!

@Chaosalways

And I am fine with this if my kids don't have to sit so close they are touching your kids!* * But you can't control what any of those children or teachers have been doing.

Soft play isn't the thing that's going to blow the lid off the thing.

The teachers boyfriend could have caught it from his job in the sandwich factory. Your kid could have caught it from visiting their aunty Doris who's been to the pub.

Which is why we need SD in schools.

Because one half are 'brave' and one half are 'cautious'.

I am happy for the brave people to catch covid if they wish to do so.

I don't want to catch it until more is known about organ damage etc.

But we've been told kids don't spread it. So as long as the adults are socially distant in the soft play, and I assume there will be reduced numbers to ensure this.

@hedgehogger1

But we've been told kids don't spread it. So as long as the adults are socially distant in the soft play, and I assume there will be reduced numbers to ensure this.

Why wouldn't children spread it?

They may have milder symptoms if they get the virus, but there's no logical reason why they wouldn't spread it to others.

Again. We’ve been told they might not assuming social distancing and we’ve been told they might spread it more.

We don’t know yet. How on earth can we?

Why on earth would they spread every other virus known to man but not this one?

It might provide comfort to believe that one headline you read once but it’s no advisable.

I don’t know how many of us need to say this.

Hedgehogger

A quick Google quickly shows a range of studies and articles showing that young children might spread it less (not not at all) and they might spread it more (these are more recent findings).

You have clearly read the articles saying that they spread it less, so for balance I wanted to share this for your reference.

www.nurseryworld.co.uk/news/article/new-research-suggests-young-children-can-drive-the-spread-of-coronavirus

I think the jury's our on whether young kids spread it.

It would be wonderful if they didn't.

The temperature has not been a factor in keeping ice rinks closed. Ice skating has (wrongly) been categorised as leisure rather than sport - probably because in the UK the majority of competitive ice skaters (excluding ice hockey) are female and female athletes are sadly classed as low priority.

And the pp who said ice skating depends on funding from audiences is completely wrong.

Sadly, ice rinks in Scotland are still closed.

@hedgehogger1

Soft play must be fine surely, we know small kids don't spread Covid.

@byvirtue

Of course these places should be allowed to open they have been prevented from making any income for 5 months now. Many will have already gone bust as most businesses don’t have enough cash stashed away to pay their rent, rate and bills for such a prolonged period of time.

You don’t have to spend your money at any of these places but at least give them a chance to stay afloat if they can.

This ... I have seen these business go bust some using food banks so easy to say don't open them when you can afford to feed your kids! Saying that I hate soft play so many sickness bugs my kids have picked up there

@FaithinWashing great post !!! The fear is worse than the disease and the media have done a great job whipping up fear I have been petrified

Health vs economy/jobs remains a tough balancing act. .... I totally get why people are nervous or against this, but personally I think it's the right decision to reopen soft plays. But again, no judgment on those who think otherwise,

Softplay and toddler clubs have parents in attendance which is where the problem will lie.

Why is it any different to adults sitting in a pub or restaurant?

What pisses me off is that we have Johnson saying, schools are our absolute top priority. We have Whitty saying, we've opened up as much as we can and if we want to open up anything more, something already open will have to close.

So if these things are both true, why, why, why are we opening up soft plays? These things cannot simultaneously all be right.

Not sure I agree with soft play reopening but at least a this will stop all the school threads. Because nobody could argue that everything else is open yet the kids can’t go to school could they?!

Wonder what happened to the ‘ we are at the limit of what we can open’

2 weeks later, open everything!

I do agree we need to just get back to normal.
My worry was always the schools but they will definitely be opening now.