Preston Council warn young people 'Don't kill Granny'

[annabel85]

news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-young-people-warned-dont-kill-granny-as-lockdown-imposed-in-preston-12045017

Is this really the only way we can get these youngsters to behave? And will they take any notice?

Do I think older people would give up everything to save the children? Do. I. Fuck

Me neither. After all, they (generally speaking) voted for Brexit.

My kids don't have grandparents. If they were in Preston they could do what they like?

The pubs were busy and paid little attention to social distancing (a relative posted pictures of their nights out with men drunk sat on each other’s knees- 10+ people to a table in the Wetherspoons). The switch nightclub opened by saying they were a bar- There were videos all over my Facebook of people dancing and singing there. I went today to drop off shopping to my grandma and the roads were jam packed. I don’t think this message will do anything to change it.

Terrible slogan. The anxious kids will now be worrying what they do will harm their grandparents

F** off. Do I care that I'll pass it on? Yes. Is there anything I can do about it? Not really, no. We can't stay in all the time can we? Is granny going to pay the bills and fulfil all my other needs too? And yes, they are legitimate needs I have as a human being. Not all grannies that get it will die. It is really time to start living. Everyday life is all about risk taking. Shall we not drive granny around for fear of killing her in a car crash? It's no quality of life living like that. And that trumps life itself I'm afraid to all those who deny it. Kids start to rebel when you try and tell them what to do. I wouldn't dream of telling my kids what to do in order to protect me. You have no right. They are free to live how they wish.

@Redolent

Well I want to hear from those who say that we need to 'protect the vulnerable and let the rest of us crack on with things'. What exactly is the plan for protecting the vulnerable who live with or are regularly in contact with school aged children?

It wouldn't be possible in all circumstances. However the aim is to reduce transmission/flatten the curve/not overwhelm the NHS. Not that no one is exposed to the virus.

@cptartapp Meanwhile my two teens are expected to sit exams next year, having been denied six months worth of education largely to protect more vulnerable groups such as these.
I hope your dc aren’t studying maths if their numeracy is as weak as yours. 14/15 weeks is not six months!

They do actually. One at A level.
14 weeks is still a massive impact and in fact is likely to become much closer to six months or even more, if you believe, as most medics do that a winter spike will result in schools closing again at some point.
Be interesting to see how many of these vulnerable grannies who, in their thousands refuse the flu vaccine every year because they don't believe in it, will decide to have it this season.

@cptartapp

They do actually. One at A level. 14 weeks is still a massive impact and in fact is likely to become much closer to six months or even more, if you believe, as most medics do that a winter spike will result in schools closing again at some point. Be interesting to see how many of these vulnerable grannies who, in their thousands refuse the flu vaccine every year because they don't believe in it, will decide to have it this season.

It's huge. I read somewhere the predicted loss of life earnings for missing this much education over a young person's lifetime. It was staggering. Wish I could remember the link.

This isn’t targeted at anxious children ffs. If you are showing this to anxious 6 year olds that is your issue and not the local council. It is intended to be a hard hitting message aimed at young adults. It would have made me think twice at 20. Essentially if young healthy people are getting it, there will (hopefully) be a build up of immunity but the most important thing is the message of if you’ve been going to the pub, not social distancing etc then don’t pop in to see people at risk and be equally cavalier with them.

@Sailingblue

This isn’t targeted at anxious children ffs. If you are showing this to anxious 6 year olds that is your issue and not the local council. It is intended to be a hard hitting message aimed at young adults. It would have made me think twice at 20. Essentially if young healthy people are getting it, there will (hopefully) be a build up of immunity but the most important thing is the message of if you’ve been going to the pub, not social distancing etc then don’t pop in to see people at risk and be equally cavalier with them.

If that's the case why not 'message' the grannies (and the grandads too maybe).

Why blame young people?

Kids are reading the headlines, hearing the news, seeing the ads though. They will hear that. If they are in a shop and it's being talked about on the radio, you can't stop them hearing it.

@askmehowiknow because from the cases they know it's people under 30 that are catching it! So they're obviously not distancing or putting themselves in risky situations and then maybe visiting grandparents who don't know

[quote QueenCT]@askmehowiknow because from the cases they know it's people under 30 that are catching it! So they're obviously not distancing or putting themselves in risky situations and then maybe visiting grandparents who don't know [/quote]
I thought it was 50/50 under/over 30?

Plus it's ok for young people to be catching it. But not quite as ok for elderly.

Why is the message that young people are killing grannies?! Insane!

Because young people pick it up, might be asymptomatic or have very mild symptoms and then pass it on to someone who is incredibly ill with it
Basically the same reason as you shouldn't be out and about with chicken pox. And I guess you might kill granny or someone older or vulnerable with underlying health conditions doesn't have the same ring to it Plus it's less personal
It's aimed at the ones who are piling into a nightclub or hanging about in huge groups with no distancing

@QueenCT

Because young people pick it up, might be asymptomatic or have very mild symptoms and then pass it on to someone who is incredibly ill with it Basically the same reason as you shouldn't be out and about with chicken pox. And I guess you might kill granny or someone older or vulnerable with underlying health conditions doesn't have the same ring to it Plus it's less personal It's aimed at the ones who are piling into a nightclub or hanging about in huge groups with no distancing

I believe there is no evidence either way in asymptotic transmission.

Plus if vulnerable people are going out, they are doing so with the knowledge that people are going to pubs etc now. It is our choice and responsibility to act as we see fit to protect ourselves. Not to expect young people to stop going out do that the vulnerable can

My first thought was 'what about grandad, doesnt he matter:(
but now I think the 'quiet part' of the slogan is:
'send her to a care home and we'll do it for you'
Or is it something to do with shredded wheat...'knitted by nanas' ?

Maybe granny should be isolating herself? Leaving young people to try and rebuild their lives?

Right so the vulnerable should all be staying in? rather than the young avoiding not distancing, going to rammed nightclubs, and not taking any notice of the new restrictions

Shielding has ended and the vulnerable need/are being made/asked to return to work
That's heading back to locking up the disabled out of harms way while everyone else does what they want. We have already done 4 months shielding, how much longer do you want people to do?
If the young observe the distancing, new restrictions, wear a mask and maybe have thought for people they visit/live with then surely everyone can go out

@cologne4711

Do I think older people would give up everything to save the children? Do. I. Fuck

Me neither. After all, they (generally speaking) voted for Brexit.

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@cologne4711

Do I think older people would give up everything to save the children? Do. I. Fuck

Me neither. After all, they (generally speaking) voted for Brexit.

Me three!

@Patriciawentworth

Maybe granny should be isolating herself? Leaving young people to try and rebuild their lives?

Can't have that! I mean, people who can't use masks are already told to stay home .

Does Mumsnet have a Pedants' Corner?

First the blame was put on primary kids now teens 🙄 only a matter of time before school age children in September too are blamed for the pandemic reaching highs again. The governments handling of this crisis early on and even now is the cause of our high death rate. They couldn't even decide on masks in the beginning which tbf could have saved many from the get go!

Wonder who will be the next scapegoat

Imho the government killed and are killing granny

Teenagers can't really be expected to take the blame when our lax government has pubs open before schools, it's would laughable if it wasn't so damn shocking. Considering our government missed 4 cobra meetings in the time this shit show could have been controlled sheds light on how it's practically manslaughter, Boris has blood on his hands not a bunch of teens!!